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Songshu Xinxu30-Jul-14 8:16
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I'm a programmer working in a small 7-man team of developers for a web design studio. We work in PHP/Symfony2 (rant for another day) and use Atlassian's JIRA ticket system for tracking issues.

We also use it for logging time. Frown | :(

This being the first job I've had in which time logging has been mandatory (log all work, log 7.5 hours per day) I'm finding it to be a huge obstacle to my productivity. A train of thought is a fragile thing, and stopping after every little thing (sending an e-mail, making a Git commit) to log the time I've spent on it and what I did is proving to be very effective at derailing it. Couple this with the pressure to get 7.5 hours logged on something or other every single day and I'm actually starting to dread coming to work in the morning.

Not only this, we now have a completely redundant physical whiteboard full of sticky-notes representing JIRA tickets/issues that must be kept in-sync with the digital system. By hand.

We're such a small team, we're all in the same room. But every time we want to fix an issue we need to:

  1. Go to JIRA, mark the issue as 'In Progress'.

  2. Stand up, walk over the the whiteboard and move the sticky-note to the 'In Progress' column.
  3. Sit back down, fix the issue.

  4. Go to JIRA, log the time spent on the issue and write a short description of what has been changed.

  5. Mark the issue as 'Ready for Review'.

  6. Stand up again, Hmmm | :| walk over to the whiteboard and move the sticky-note to the 'Ready for Review' column.
  7. Go back to JIRA again and message the QA guys that there's a new sticky note in the 'Ready for Review' column.


I stress again, we're a 7-man web development team trying to be time-efficient, fast and agile. Everyone's practically going crazy about how everything takes too long. Part of it's to do with the bulky toolset we're using, but it baffles me that we can't slim down the ridiculous admin and let the developers do what they do best without having to watch the clock all the time.

So what's the verdict? Am I a crybaby or is this genuinely as silly as it all seems? Frown | :(
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