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Eddy Vluggen wrote: are now too scared to defend it.
Why do you believe that? Or are you just trolling?
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ZurdoDev wrote: Why do you believe that? Or are you just trolling?
I don't believe that, I deduced it. From the points;
- you make a claim
- take no responsibility for it and dismiss it as humor
So, you just wanted to plant the nonsense.
You're welcome for the free explanation 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: you make a claim
- take no responsibility for it and dismiss it as humor
I made lots of claims. You only asked about one and that one happened to be humorous. It's very clear you just don't have much of a sense of humor.
Your first response also proves that you didn't even see that the OP was a joke to begin with.
Lighten up a little bit buddy. 
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Somewhat like "I was just sarcastic when I suggested inserting detergents into you bodies to fight corona"
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I am happy that you obviously recognized the (slightly indirect) reference I made.
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Let's take it easy. We both got banned already for letting other's remarks get to us. Just saying... 
Just ignore him, I usually do. It helps.
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They aren't getting to me. I think they are hilarious. He started out by responding to jokes I made thinking that they were serious. I just kept following him.
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We have jokes often enough. They don't take the form that "XXX is a scam".
You made a statement and then can't explain it, nor dare to defend it.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: You made a statement and then can't explain it, nor dare to defend it.
No one has asked me to explain it. I'm not even sure what "it" refers to here.
I'll defend anything I say anytime. All you have to do is ask. 
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ZurdoDev wrote: I'll defend anything I say anytime. All you have to do is ask.
I did.
ZurdoDev wrote: I'm not even sure what "it" refers to here.
You came with a statement. Not going to point it out, I'd have to charge you for education.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: I did.
The only question you asked was about how catchy the virus was, which I didn't even make a claim about.
Therefore, I accept your surrender.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Therefore, I accept your surrender.
Nah, I can defend what I say.
And after being warned that "I'm doing 'it' again", I'm going to stop replying. You can have the last word, enjoy it
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Simple back-of-envelope calculation...
The US population is 330 millon. If the average life span is 66 years(*), then USA has 5 million deaths a year, or 13,700 a day. Currently, the daily corona toll is roughly 1500-2000 daily deaths - at most 15% of the death count. A fraction of these persons might have died for other causes, if they hadn't died from corona. To estimate how many additional deaths corona has caused, we will not know until we can compare it to the years before and after. (Deaths tend to vary somewhat with season, so for the most reliable result, figures should be compared from the same month of the preceeding and succeeding years.)
(*) Also note that expected life span is highly dependent on how old you are: If you have survived the dangers of being a baby, a child, a youth, a young adult... You have avoided several pitfalls, then you will not pull down the average for those reasons. You will probably live longer than the average for the population as a whole. If you are a newborn kid and all the dangers lie ahead of you, the risk of dying before you grow old is present, reducing the expected life time for your age group. This is far more pronounced in less developed countries, and more in the Afro-American population (especially large-city males) than in well-to-do WASPs.
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ZurdoDev wrote: a bigger scam than Y2k was.
Of all places where people should know that Y2K was no scam, it's a developer site.
I still very clearly remember fixing dumb code like:
int nYear = atoi( "19" + strRelativeYearOffset );
As soon as you had a date from 2000 or newer, the "two"-digit year string became "100", so for 2007, nYear became 19107.
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dandy72 wrote: Of all places where people should know that Y2K was no scam, it's a developer site.
Of course there were some programs and OSes that needed updated. The scam is how many people believed the world was going to end and how many y2k "engineers" there were going around putting certified stickers on computers.
It's BECAUSE I am a developer that I know it was not as big a deal as everyone else was out to make it. That and the fact that I have a brain. 
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The reason I correct anyone who claims it was a "scam" is that some believe nothing had to be done.
I always point out that it turned out to be mostly a non-event, exactly because money was spent to review and correct systems that did the sort of stupid thing I provided as an example...not in spite of it.
At the other end of the spectrum, as you pointed out, are those who believed the world was going to end.
ZurdoDev wrote: how many y2k "engineers" there were going around putting certified stickers on computers.
Depends on the methodology.
I was involved in automating the certification process of system BIOSes by setting the clock forward a few seconds before 2000/01/01 00:00:00, waiting for the rollover, then reading the BIOS clock back. Then those systems were marked as certified or not, depending on the value read back. Nothing silly about the exercise (we did find some systems that went back to 1900), although we made it clear that was the extent of that particular test.
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dandy72 wrote: that some believe nothing had to be done.
I never met or heard of anyone thinking that nothing needed to be done. Same thing with covid.
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ZurdoDev wrote: I never met or heard of anyone thinking that nothing needed to be done
I have.
First-hand.
Repeatedly.
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Don't go thinking I "hang out" with these people. 
Those beliefs are the reason I don't hang out with them.
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You just imply.
In jest, before someone can call you out.
I don't jest; you're a coward.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Will you shut the f*** up, we all know it was blown totally out of proportion but most of us made rather a lot of money from the remediation, especially in the finance industry.
These guys are ruining it for the next scare mongering the IT industry can foist on the managers (if you work out what it will be I'd like 0.2% please)
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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ZurdoDev wrote: However, on a serious note, this pandemic is turning out to be a bigger scam than Y2k was.
That is not yet final. Our Great Leader Donald Duck Trump is panicking that US econony may be deep down in a pit at election time. Right now it seems like he is saying: Forget those worries about the virus! Get the economy going!
I am certainly not the only one fearing that this strategy may backfire. For the last 6-8 weeks, USA has experienced roughly 1500 corona deaths a day. The fall the last two weeks is so minimal that it cannot be trusted to be a trend. The "opening up" so strongly pushed from the central administration could very easily revese this trend.
I do not know where to draw the borderline between a "scam" and that which is not a scam. Two thousand corona deaths a day? Five thousand a day? Ten thousand? If opening up leads to ten thousand deaths a day for a year, it could reduce the US population by 1%. Is it still a scam? Or does that depend on which one percent of the US population dies from corona?
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The problem is everyday there is a new article about how numbers are not being reported accurately and how they are reported too high. This thing is no where near as bad as the media is making it.
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