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Munchies_Matt20-May-19 1:55
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GeneralPartisanship is (an awful lot like) treason Pin
Dean Roddey18-May-19 14:53
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These days I cannot help but draw comparisons between the retarded level of partisanship in this country and treason. I mean they seem to sort of have the same goals.

1. Encourage xenophobia, racism, class-ism, and so forth with the intent of undermining our society and political system
2. Work hard to prevent large swaths of the population from rising to their potential
3. Spread nasty rumors that are specifically intended to undermine anyone who doesn't share your own views
4. Put your own interests ahead of the interests of the people
5. Block success of any change or process if it doesn't work to your own advantage, or might be beneficial to the 'other side'
6. Just assuming that the 'other side' is guilty of anything the partisan political organization you call the news tells you they did, while denying to the death that your side ever does anything wrong (ironically both providing cover for real abuse of power while simultaneously making it easy to use false claims of such as a weapon or an attention deflection mechanism.)

If someone from another country was doing these things successfully encouraging these things in the US on a broad scale, we'd staple them to a wall and shoot little metal pellets at them at high speed. But large numbers of people and organizations inside this country are doing these things on a daily basis.

It's a cancer on our society and one of the primary indicators that education and intelligence aren't proportional since we are more educated on average than ever; but, if anything, growing more polarized and more happy to believe the most disgusting slander if it suits our own bigotry. We haven't remotely grown out of our animal roots and are so easily led around by our own fears and hatreds that it's ridiculous.

And these days that's a growth industry, with organizations pushing those buttons like it's an ATM to make money, gain market, or build a rabid political base that they can turn into power. But they can only do that because of the unthinking bias of people in general, and their willingness to believe anything they are told if it aligns with their own prejudices.

This is arguably the greatest threat we have. Powerful nations seldom fall from external attack. They rot from the inside. And, ironically, so much of our rot is in the form of people claiming that anyone who doesn't agree with them is that internal threat. When in actual fact it's the hate, stalemate and cynicism that flows from this never ending partisanship that is the really dangerous decay growing in our country's guts.

Not that we haven't always been susceptible to this. But now we are so many more and the channels for hate-flow are so high-bandwidth, and the art of manipulation is now become a science and a growth business. At some point, a difference in scale becomes a difference in kind.

And of course the person who refuses to play that game and who judges every situation on its merits will likely be vilified by both sides. You can't gain power in this country by putting forth remotely nuanced arguments or by refusing to play the left/right game. The partisans have locked it up and at best you could only make a temporary incursion before you are wiped out. There are always far more people willing to be whipped into a frenzy than there are people who refuse to play.

Until we change that, and I don't think we will be able to, then we can't change the basic equation that we find ourselves forced into one or the other side of. And it'll just get worse most likely. The only things I could think of that might change it would be events so enormously impactful that it's hard to wish for such things to happen. Anything less that a direct global threat to us as a species is more likely to just work against such change, not for it.
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