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Same here - just got number 4!
I also emailed insider@cp.com, but they're probably swamped with moany emails
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same here too
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Fourth copy received here also.
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Same here. It's typical - Chris goes on holiday, and the hamsters break the email system.
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- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: It's typical - Chris goes on holiday, and the hamsters break the emjail system. FTFY
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We are having some issues migrating our Newsletter services to a new server. Unfortunately, something about Windows 2016 is causing a lot of errors and retries and hence multiple copies.
I've fired up the old server and unfortunately, you will probably get yet another copy.
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Just did - that makes 5 now.
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Fifth received here also.
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Message Removed
modified 20-Aug-18 21:01pm.
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Message Removed
modified 18-Jul-18 9:56am.
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Hi
I have been charged for using your RDS start stop service without informing about the charges in prior to my AWS account kindly check and revert asap.
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As additional information... he is complaining about in this tip/trick
Just in case CP Staff want to check out.
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Almost certainly nothing to do with this site - your other message is posted in the correct place: Start/Stop RDS instances on schedule[^]
@Sean-Ewington Sean, do you want to have a look, in the absence of Chris?
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In Germany it is said: "Two dumb, one thought"
I prefer the other version: "Great minds think alike"
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Disclaimer: I am not a CP employee.
I don't think CP can help you with this. You can check what you are charged for in your AWS account. The tip you are referring to uses AWS lambda which is free till a limit. I highly doubt you would have crossed that limit. Similar pricing set up is for cloudwatch as well.
Only thing I can guess here is that you created a new RDS service with reserved DB instance which you got charged for for the first month.
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@Sean-Ewington
Sean, I don't know who deleted the original message, but it's back, after a quick trip through moderation: Start/Stop RDS instances on schedule[^] - if true, I suspect it's his fault but he doesn't seem to want to leave it. Can you have a word?
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So many things that are astonishing about all this.
- That he deployed code to a commercial cloud vendor without understanding the ramifications.
- That his work's IT or accounting team allowed that to happen.
- His expectation that Chris would wire him the $186.
- How he's used an anonymous username, asking for unrealistic support.
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Trouble is, that's the way it's going: instead of thinking about how to do something, the modern developers just grab code from the internet at random, chuck it in the app, hit it with a hammer until it fits (or at least doesn't fall out when you compile it), and release it without any idea of what it's doing, much less how.
And then they are surprised when it backfires on them.
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I hate to say this, but today, sites like SO and CP often do as much damage as they do good to the IT ecosystem.
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No, I don't think so, I think it's an expectations problem, combined with poorly trained educators. The generation has an expectation that they can master computers easily because they can work a phone, and the educators don't know how development works (and aren't about to put the work in to find out when they can just follow a book).
So the "developers" know no better and assume that's how you do it: find a chunk of code and bash it about a bit. CP generally doesn't help them to do that (though for SO that is pretty much it's raison d'être) - we do try to educate and explain, rather than just pass on code fragments. Or I do, anyway!
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Bash it about a bit? That's rather optimistic. Most of them give up when they can't find a "perfect solution" after 30 seconds on Google.
But I suppose that's marginally better than the ones who can't find Google in the first place...
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Cloud platforms do make it really easy to footgun yourself though. It would be nice if they had a default spending alert set at some low value to avoid nasty surprises. $186 is nowhere near as bad as it could have been though. When my employer first started trying out Azure someone (not me, I was working elsewhere when this happened and only heard it second hand) accidentally created a Sql Server Enterprise tier DB instead of a Sql Server Dirt Cheap Tier DB and ran up a charge of several thousand dollars before the first bill was generated and anyone realized there was a problem.
We have had a few other fun smaller snafus related to people not realizing the charge is per database not per database server, or that deleting a DB in SSMS does not kill all of the backing items that generate monthly charges.
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Dan Neely wrote: loud platforms do make it really easy to footgun yourself though.
What you describe is exactly how they make their money.
Make it stupid easy, and not really clear what the cost is. Hoping the accounting dept just blindly cuts the check.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I just checked, and the article you reference is covered by the Code Project Open Licence (CPOL), which you agreed to when you used the code in your application: CPOL: Code Project Open License[^]
And the CPOL is very, very clear on the subject:
Quote: Representations, Warranties and Disclaimer. THIS WORK IS PROVIDED "AS IS", "WHERE IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE", WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OR GUARANTEES. YOU, THE USER, ASSUME ALL RISK IN ITS USE, INCLUDING COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, PATENT INFRINGEMENT, SUITABILITY, ETC. AUTHOR EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF MERCHANTABILITY, MERCHANTABLE QUALITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR ANY WARRANTY OF TITLE OR NON-INFRINGEMENT, OR THAT THE WORK (OR ANY PORTION THEREOF) IS CORRECT, USEFUL, BUG-FREE OR FREE OF VIRUSES. YOU MUST PASS THIS DISCLAIMER ON WHENEVER YOU DISTRIBUTE THE WORK OR DERIVATIVE WORKS.
Indemnity. You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless the Author and the Publisher from and against any claims, suits, losses, damages, liabilities, costs, and expenses (including reasonable legal or attorneys’ fees) resulting from or relating to any use of the Work by You.
Limitation on Liability. EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL THE AUTHOR OR THE PUBLISHER BE LIABLE TO YOU ON ANY LEGAL THEORY FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, PUNITIVE OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THIS LICENSE OR THE USE OF THE WORK OR OTHERWISE, EVEN IF THE AUTHOR OR THE PUBLISHER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. So I suspect that regardless of the cause of your charges - and I have no access to any information about them - you will have to bear them on your own.
But I would note that it has been downloaded 357 times in just under a year, and you are the first person that we know has experienced this. Occam's razor suggests you did something wrong with it, not that the author of the article is responsible.
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modified 17-Jul-18 14:08pm.
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That article start/stops RDS service. I think OP did not had any RDS instance and to "try out" the code, they would have created one with SQL/Oracle DB with reserved DB instance. That costs somewhere around $150 based on DB type and backup strategy. Unless OP clears up whatever is created on AWS, they will be charged each month.
I believe this is classic case of "OMFG! what have I done.". Their AWS account will tell what exactly they are charged for and it cannot be lambda or cloudwatch unless OP did >million executions and dealt with GBs worth of data.
Sean should just send mankini pics as consolation. I bet OP would take $186/month set back happily instead of those pics.
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