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I just noticed that when adding a Solution, there is no "Quote Selected Text" button, but there is when editing the Solution. Makes for a two-step process.
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You can use simple Copy+Paste and select 'Quoted Text' from the popup dialog on the right side...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
תפסיק לספר לה' כמה הצרות שלך גדולות, תספר לצרות שלך כמה ה' גדול!
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True, but not exactly the same.
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I was thinking of converting the EST time everytime to PST time and so on and so forth just to make sure that I've synchronized my watch to that of the CodeProjects. So, I wanted to add a suggestion to write the current CodeProject time in the header, along with the Members label.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Why not just use an NTP time server?
Any time in the header is likely to be out of date by the time the page is complete and readable...
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Thanks for the suggestion, I will look into that one. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Onion Architecture in ASP.Net MVC[^]
This is the present version of the article that has many blank spaces towards the end. Don't know form where they came!!
I have updated and published please update to the newer version. 
Thanks
Regards,
Suraj
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All updates to articles return them to the moderation queue.
It will be published (or not) as a result when moderators have approved it.
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Thanks Sir.
Will wait for the moderators.
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I think I may have solved the problem.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Thanks a lot Sir.
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Just tried to fix it, failed apparently. Wait for @[Sean Ewington] or someone else from the staff.
The console is a black place
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Fixed.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thanks, works!
Cheers,
Edgar
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They are still getting closed far too early.
Take this one for example: what are my codes error, please tell me i'm new.[^] 17 minutes, and it's gone.
Yes, it's just a code dump. Yes, it's unformatted. No, there is no clue as to what help the OP needs.
But...as it says, he is new. Completely new - and has no idea what he is doing. And if questions like this get closed without anyone explaining what we need and giving him a chance to edit it he never will!
That isn't "working to help developers, not make them feel stupid" - it's the complete reverse.
And that means he won't come back here. And he won't tell the others on his course how helpful we are either.
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You're a saint among men, even if you refuse to acknowledge that.
I put the question to you: at what point does inexperience in the technology, then language, the use of online forums or simply posing an answerable question shift over into lack of respect (or empathy?) for others?
For me it's a tough one. While there are many cases where it's clear the member is trying to provide information, it's also clear they've forgotten the basics which is: think about what you want and pose a question so you can get that answer.
I would much rather teach people to ask questions than spend inordinate amounts of time second-guessing non-questions. Many, many non-questions can be given feedback that directly and productively help the person, but has that person learned?
And then I think: how do you teach someone how to ask a question? If you teach one can you transfer that easily to another or must you start from scratch with every single person? A number of options have been given including the use of templates or adding more fields that need to be filled out ("what's the quesiton", "what have you tried", "where's the code") but we'd be trying to cram lots of square pegs into round holes with this approach.
So what do we do? Firstly, where do we draw the line on bad questions? What should our tolerance level be? Or do we dispense with the notion and treat questions and non-questions equally? Secondly, how do we help the community pose their questions more helpfully?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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It is a tough one.
But I try to think about it from the POV of the author of the question.
Probably, when you started in this business you were the same as me: didn't have a damn clue! 
And that's scary. You have a task, you don't know what to do and it doesn't work. It's easy for panic to set in and for you to assume that everybody knows exactly what you are talking about. So when you ask a question, you just assume that your code is all we need: we can fix it because we are clever and experienced. You don't think about the problem (if you think at all) because it's there; it's in front of your face; you can't think about anything else. You have already put a fair amount of work into finding us in the first place!
And asking questions is a skill. Quite likely it's one that experienced developers use all the time - even if only with their own code - without even thinking about it. I suspect it's what makes us good developers: knowing which questions to ask and how to ask them! And like any skill, it goes through the four stages: Unconscious incompetence, Conscious incompetence, Conscious competence, Unconscious competence. But it has to be taught, it isn't something that come naturally to a lot of people.
So picture it: in mid panic (because you need to hand this in tomorrow and you spent too long in the Student Union Bar instead of working, just like I did) you found us, dumped your code and sat back for help. And if you are lucky you got a brief note saying "This was not a question, so we closed it".
How much work does it take to ask for clarification? To tell someone what details we need and why, and to explain how to add them?
I have a boilerplate for it:
This is not a good question - we cannot work out from that little what you are trying to do.
Remember that we can't see your screen, access your HDD, or read your mind.
Use the "Improve question" widget to edit your question and provide better information.
And I extend that to explain the problem for the specific question.
Just killing complete beginners questions is wrong, I think - it shows the same kind of rude arrogance that SO show to noobies. Or are people just hitting the "Not a question" button because it gets them rep points? I dunno, but it does seem to be the same set of names which crop up as the "closers".
With the exception of spammers and trolls, people post a question because they don't know what to do. If they knew what to ask and how to ask it, they would have 90% of the solution already and wouldn't have to ask us. Closing the question specifically because they don't know how to ask it, or they use the wrong words doesn't help anyone! Does it?
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OriginalGriff wrote: So picture it: in mid panic (because you need to hand this in tomorrow and you spent too long in the Student Union Bar instead of working, just like I did) you found us, dumped your code and sat back for help.
Perhaps a new "homework" reporting option? Possibly with a specific board for homework questions, where members would be encouraged to provide hints, rather than full answers.
Or are you suggesting we should be doing people's homework for them? 
OriginalGriff wrote: Or are people just hitting the "Not a question" button because it gets them rep points?
Don't know if I'm one of your "same set of names", but that's definitely not my motivation.
I tend to vote "not a question" when there's nothing but a list of requirements, possibly accompanied by a demand for code, or if it's a code-dump without an obvious question.
I try to keep "unclear or incomplete" for questions where there's no attempt to provide any information, or where the relevant information hasn't been provided some time after prompting. I've previously posted[^] my thoughts on how this option could be improved, but I don't know whether that fits with Chris's vision for the site, or how easy it would be to implement. In an ideal world, I think this option should act as more of a prompt for the user to provide the missing information, and do away with its current "go away n00b!" vibe.
I'm fully in favour of limiting, or even doing away with, rep points for closing questions. I think the points system should be more biased towards rewarding people who add to the site by answering questions - even if that does mean your "score" is never beaten!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: where members would be encouraged to provide hints, rather than full answers.
Why does homework get treated this way? Why do some people feel it OK to give full answers to some but not full answers to ones that look like homework?
All questions should be treated the same, even if they are homework.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm sure we've had this debate before!
Homework questions are set to test the student's understanding of the course material. If someone else does their homework for them, then you're only testing their ability to cheat.
Students who are unable to do their homework should be asking their teacher for help. That way, the teacher is aware that the student is struggling, and may be able to offer additional tutoring. If lots of students are struggling, the teacher might adjust their approach, or go back over some of the troublesome material.
Students who are unable to complete their final year project for their CS degree shouldn't pass the course. If they pass without understanding the material, they'll only end up getting a job that they're not qualified to do, and they'll almost certainly still expect someone else to do their work for them.
In other words, give a man a fish...
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
modified 11-Nov-14 11:27am.
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Richard Deeming wrote: If someone else does their homework for them
I certainly wasn't suggesting we do the work for them. But we should help.
Again, how is it different than helping someone who is employed. Should we be doing their work for them? They won't learn if we do that.
It seems that all your arguments for not helping homework could also be applied to someone who is looking for help on their work.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: It seems that all your arguments for not helping homework could also be applied to someone who is looking for help on their work.
As I see it, the main difference is that homework questions are based on the material covered in the course. The student is supposed to be able to answer the question based on what they've just been studying.
With work-based questions, the person asking the question might never have encountered the particular problem they're facing before. There might not even be a solution.
RyanDev wrote: Should we be doing their work for them?
No, which is why we have the "not a question" reporting option. If someone posts a list of requirements and expects us to write the code for them, the question will be closed.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: The student is supposed to be able to answer the question based on what they've just been studying.
And the employee is supposed to be able do their job. 
I still say we try to help people as much as we can.
Richard Deeming wrote: No, which is why we have the "not a question" reporting option. If someone posts a list of requirements and expects us to write the code for them, the question will be closed.
Agreed.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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