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Have you noticed the amount of junk and ridiculously simple articles that have started to pop up on CodeProject?
An examples: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/bj__jhkljk.asp
There were few more during the past week. I did report most as abuse and almost all seem to have been taken out 
So you can rest assured that the CP admins thought them to be junk as well, and that I'm not trying to pick on some kid who posted a beginner article.
But, what's going on in here anyway? Have we pissed off some sociopaths and let them run wild on CP?
Anyway, I suggest we all take the time to figure out what we can do to keep CP from turning into something ugly.
If you have read this (http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44091&cid=4592270) article on SlashDot, you'll understand my concern 
Cheers!
Sameera.
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Just let Chris know about it and he'll take care of it
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Hey Chris! You know about this?
Maybe CP, ratings should work like Digg.
Or maybe more CPians should be made moderators.
Anything to keep the site clean 
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I suggest members with less than 50 messages are not allowed to post an article
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While that can help,
that would even exclude me
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I think new members (however you define it) should be allowed to post an article, but their articles should be queued for review (maybe by CP "volunteer" editors?) until they have completed their probationary period.
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Yeah, precisely.
I'd volunteer for such a worth cause 
(seriously, I would).
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sameeraperera wrote: I'd volunteer for such a worth cause
(seriously, I would).
I would also do
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sameeraperera wrote: If you have read this (http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44091&cid=4592270) article on SlashDot, you'll understand my concern
That was hilarious. I'm still laughing. When I stop laughing, I'll probably begin to realize how close it comes to some situations here, but thanks for the link. 
Example:
Slashdottians know nothing, they accomplish nothing, and their opinions are worth nothing. They are uniformly bitter, small-minded geeks who overestimate their own importance and their own skillz. They are, for the most part, losers. Their biggest accomplishment is in insulting others' spelling and grammar.
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Yep, one of the great pieces of writing I ever read on the web.
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To give you a serious reply: These past few weeks have certainly been unusual in the number of sub-optimal articles (SOAs). I've theorized in the past that maybe somewhere in the world a teacher makes it a class assignment to "post an article on a programming site". However, the time of the year doesn't seem right for that to be the reason this time. As you will find, there is extreme reluctance to throttle the article flow in any way - I'm sure you can guess why. So we're probably stuck with the fly-swatter approach. Try not to let it get to you. 
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I understand what you're saying. All of us have learnt a lot from CP and as long as you don't ask for it, we'll admit to owing most of the money we make to what we've learnt here
Spent a lot of time on the first article I posted here. Had to make sure that it was good enough to be along side ones posted by the CP greats. Don't wanna see some punk kids ruine those standards.
There, meaningful discussion. Bet those slashdottians never knew what that was like
Think that's enough slashdot-bashing for a while.
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It is a blatant abuse. Just like with more negative votes on messages cause it to diminish there should be some option for articles too now.
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Precisely!
Like in Digg.
Articles below threshold should not appear unless a CP admin approves it (that would keep people like the univoter from messing up the good ones). And people should be held responsible for their votes.
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Use the "Report Broken Article" link at the top of the articles and we deal with them appropriately.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Yes, but that takes time to take it off doesn't it. I reported the link I put up as the example, and it was working until now (I guess you took it off). Not that we drive ourselves crazy looking at those pages, but when we notice something wrong, we'd like to participate in fixing it...
you know...
Power to the People
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It's monday morning. We do, occasionally, need to sleep.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Basically, what samarea is asking is to disable the page from being public display. That should be a good idea. Isn't it?
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yeah Chris, that way you can get more sleep
:-P
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sameeraperera wrote: but when we notice something wrong, we'd like to participate in fixing it...
True. It actually makes an eyesore on CP and with more spam reports, it can be blocked off public display till CP Admin intervenes.
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and what a royal pain it is too.
Why does signing in redirect to the Code Project home page?
And why does 'Remember me' not work - If I navigate to a CP page from 'outside' - I have to sign in to be able to download/comment, which then navigates you away from the page of interest... ach!
I'm using FireFox 2.0.0.4 with cookies etc enabled on XP SP2.
ATB
Jerry
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The redirect thing is broken - yep. This is because of a subtle querystring key conflict that we're fixing but is so endemic it just became too painful to try and retrofix. This will be fixed properly.
Remember me should work though. Try clearing your cookies then signing in again and it should start working again.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I think CP needs the forums to be re-organized, having categories of development topics with sub-categories underneath, something like this. I don't know if I got everything included but end result would be a cascading menu with fewer options presented at any given time, and stuff put into logical groups. The following would be found under the "Message Boards" menu item that we already have:
CodeProject Community
The Lounge
The Soapbox
Suggestion Box
Report Site Bugs
Article Requests
Get-togethers
Sports
Software Development
General
Native Code
C/C++
Frameworks
MFC
WTL
ATL
COM
STL
Windows API
Visual Basic
Other Languages
Managed/.Net
CLI/C++
C#
VB.Net
Windows API
WinForms
.Net Framework
Web Development
Classic ASP (includes VBScript)
ASP.Net 1.n
ASP.Net 2.n
ASP.Net 3.n
HTML/DHTML
CSS
Javascript
Security
Database
SQL, ADO, ADO.Net
Access
Other Databases
Drivers
Mobile Development
Native Code (all languages)
Managed Code (all languages)
Miscellaneous
Cross Platform Development
XML/SML
Collaboration & Testing
Design and Architecture
Development Tools
General
Visual Studio
VS6 and earlier
VS2003
VS2005
ORCAS (VS2008?)
All Other Compilers
Installers
Source Control/Configuration Management
Project Management
Other Tools
Operating Systems
General
Windows 95 through ME
Windows NT
Windows 2000 and XP
Windows Vista
Linux
Other Forums
General Discussion (this one seems redundant with new forum hierarchy)
Subtle Bugs
Coding Horrors
PC Hardware
Algorithms and Math
Work Issues
Employment Opportunities
Help Wanted
Seeking Employment
-- modified at 8:52 Monday 9th July, 2007
I added "Configuration Management" to "Source Control".
I added a "Frameworks" item under "Native code", and moved MFC, WTL, and ATL under that new sub-category. I left COM at the same level as STL.
I added "Installers" under "Development Tools"
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Thank you. I do want to reorg everything and your list is well thought out.
One issue is trying to ensure people post in the right forum, but I guess that will happen if we have 10 general or 50 specialty forums.
I will work to get this in place.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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And regarding the layout too, how about a Tree-like rendering? That means quick accessibility right?
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