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Nope, unfortunately nothing of that sort.
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Since Windows 10.
Microsoft are trying to do the right thing but in such a ham-fisted way that it's doing more harm than good.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: it's doing more harm than good. In the "every user will learn how to disable permanently Windows Update and will do that by default for the next 3 versions of Windows" way.
Considering that once Win7 corrupted itself by not shutting down in order to install updates, on a laptop, without a power supply, that does not come as a surprise to me.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I've tried W10, but not long enough to know about update issues.
However, I did run Windows 8 for 2 years+ and hated it, mostly because of various issues around updates - forced restart (occasionally, after forced upgrade) was but one of them. Others were screen-blocking dialogs (really loved them when gaming ), silently resetting system settings , and forcing upgrades at the worst of times, e. g. during comute, without access to power, and battery at 3%
I will be running 7 for as long as I can, and if Microsoft doesn't fix their upgrade issues by then, I'll go and install another OS. If I want to I can always run Windows 7 in a VM ...
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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The problem with that is that you need to get an update so you can tell your machine when it is allowed to get updates. Anyone else see the irony in that?
Cheers,
Mick
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It doesn't matter how often or hard you fall on your arse, eventually you'll roll over and land on your feet.
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Not really, I need to update pacman and the keyring on my Arch machine in order to even continue receiving updates.
Same with any linux distro I've dealt with. It's functionally the same thing.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Now that is worth knowing.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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According to that article:
"Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours
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If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Anything I'd say would be assumptive: really my take away was the capability to set maintenance windows.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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No, that is not how it happens anymore. 10 days ago, it happened to me too, my laptop restarted on itself without asking me anything about it.
If this is the case, that you were in the middle of an important work, then personally I would suggest updating the work hours and set it to the timing where your work is about to be done. Windows won't restart during that time.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Personally I see that more as a workaround, than a real solution .
they should allow users to switch the forced shutdown/restart off if they want to.
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V. wrote: Personally I see that more as a workaround, than a real solution Prior to Windows 10 1607, there was a solution where you could defer the updates to a week or more. Since 1607, this is the only solution not a workaround.
V. wrote: they should allow users to switch the forced shutdown/restart off if they want to. Of course they should. I liked the previous way of deferring the updates to a week, or more, until when I was ready. Now, that option is gone and work hours is provided.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: personally I would suggest updating the work hours
Completely useless for me. I use a laptop and carry it around. When I'm working it's open and I'm working on it. When I'm not working it's closed and sleeping. I don't leave my laptop running overnight.
Make the screen flash hot pink and green or something. Sound a klaxon. Anything. Just DO NOT RESTART MY MACHINE WHILE I'M TYPING.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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just turn off automatic restart and you are fine...
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Herbie Mountjoy wrote: While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything.
You know, we should really get together for a class action lawsuit against Microsoft and this BS.
Marc
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Set the update options. (Windows 7 also periodically did this, especially on a domain.)
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So you went windows 10 eh?
Remember that "I Accept" tick box at the end of the Licence Terms ...
You been owned!
PS: did you not notice the evil laughter in the background when you checked that box?
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Odd - no posts from the fanboy's, yet. Perhaps they didn't get a chance to read this thread because they were being updated?
It would be a good time to ask them "are we having fun, yet?"
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Odd - no posts from the fanboy's, yet. Perhaps they didn't get a chance to read this thread because they were being updated?
It would be a good time to ask them "are we having fun, yet?"
I very much doubt there's anyone in the world that doesn't see the Windows 10 update debacle as, well ... a debacle.
That doesn't, however, necessarily mean that Microsoft are evil incarnate; that they started it all by invading Poland or that they deliberately invented the Ebola virus to distract the world from Windows ME.
Equally, it doesn't mean that Apple or those in charge of the home-brew UNIX clones have never got anything wrong either. Chances are, they have.
It is what it is (an utterly annoying and cr@ppy thing) but it doesn't mean we have to have one of those boring "my multi-trillion dollar corporation is better than your multi-trillion dollar corporation" things that such discussions always seem to turn into.
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Rather recently there were other threads on the Win10 Update debacle.
And there were supporters of the process - and they said people could just shut them off if they wanted to.
Ignoring that it was not a user-available setting and required shutting down the service - which then meant that they weren't offered the updates at all.
I've not read the Win10 TOS, but I'd imagine it has an entire section devoted to "if an unwanted updated causes you a problem - well, that's your problem".
My comment on those threads really can be summed up as follow: "My upgrade from Win7 is to Linux"
(no multi-trillion dollar company there).
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No multi-trillion corporation but still a bunch of humans (an over-engineered and over-produced variety of life-form that can generally be relied on to screw something up at some point in time).
I'd imagine that every set of T&Cs ever written has a similar "our problems aren't our problems" section. That's pretty much what T&Cs where invented for.
I'm not saying that Microsoft could never do anything to drive me to another OS but this one gets them a yellow card rather than a red.
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PeejayAdams wrote: this one gets them a yellow card rather than a red My problem is I've given them so many yellows throughout my time spent in their game ... it's been time for me (since around 10 years now) to simply ban them completely from the game (for life), never mind a red card.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: And there were supporters of the process - and they said people could just shut them off if they wanted to. They're a couple of well known MS wu mao, they always rise to defend their beloved employer when its honor is being endangered.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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PeejayAdams wrote: they deliberately invented the Ebola virus to distract the world from Windows ME
It all makes sense now.
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