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I think it's the best decision he could have made for Scotland: it would have been hard if not impossible to govern when more than half the people you are supposed to be governing and representing have said "No, you're wrong. Elephant off."
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He _could_ have ask for a new election.
I'd rather be phishing!
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OriginalGriff wrote: when more than half the people you are supposed to be governing Wasn't it 55 to 45?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yep. 55% of the population who voted told him he was wrong.
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Forty something percent no, thirty something yes, and fifteen percent couldn't give a sh*t.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Either way, that seems quite close.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I guess he doesn't know how to do politics.
Any gifted politician would have claimed tampering at the polls, invoked charges of racism/sexism, and then wrapped himself in the flag while proclaiming that God is on his side. He could then throw down a few large rallies, write a book that paints him a martyr, and then use his political clout to acquire a do-nothing government job that keeps him wealthy for the rest of his life.
If he'd like lessons on how to do it right I'd suggest he study American politics.
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They threw the bodies in a septic tank, which ironically enough, was probably built by the last group of Westerners that came through to help out. I have to give a great deal of credit to those willing to put up with this sort of thing - I'd just let the disease rip if it were up to me. I hate to be cold like that but I'm at a point in my life where I'm tired of getting stiff armed by the people I'm trying to help. Could be because I have teenage daughters.
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MehGerbil wrote: Could be because I have teenage daughters.
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MehGerbil wrote: Could be because I have teenage daughters.
Jeremy Falcon
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Sad...
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Just read that. TIA, I guess, although I can honestly say I don´t know anyone who´s not confused about this one.
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Not too hard to understand, when you consider all their previous experience of "help" from "mature" nations.
I don't trust western governments, so just imagine how they feel.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Its not good. We have to find a way to satisfy them as part of the Union.
How about this for an idea:
I suggest giving the Scottish govt a proportionate share of the oil revenue and let them spend it rather than the central UK govt. Of course much of the money would head south of the border anyway so I don't foresee a big change in doing this.
Scotland would of course have to contribute directly to national funds, such as defense and so on.
Thoughts people?
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and 55% are not. The angry ones will just have to get over it. Perhaps a nice cup of Irn Bru and a deep fried mars bar will do the trick...
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democracy doesn't mean 'shaft the minority' though and that's whats happening. Some solution has to be found.
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The Scots need only carefully record what was promised by London.
Three years from now when they've received NONE of it then do a re-vote.
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The solution is to stop calling it a democracy.
It is just a matter of "how much" do we spend to achieve the desired outcome. There has been more fearmongering than relevant discussions.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: democracy doesn't mean 'shaft the minority' though and that's whats happening. Some solution has to be found. It doesn't mean ignore the majority either. This looks like one of those cases where "you can't have your cake and eat it too". Either Scotland is independent or its not.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: It doesn't mean ignore the majority either It takes an informed public to form an informed opinion.
Without that, it is merely a popularity-contest where the biggest investor wins.
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Its not about independence, keeping the pound and the Queen is hardly independence, its about oil money.
So some compromise has to be reached to satisfy both sides.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: So some compromise has to be reached to satisfy both sides. It rarely works that way. More often a successful compromise means both sides are equally disappointed.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Well, a compromise can mean all parties go away reasonably happy.
In this instance my proposition would satisfy all the Scots, They get the bulk of the oil money and stay in the union.
OK, the English and Welsh might feel hard done by, but in recompense, all the existing subsidies and preferences that go to Scotland cease, and Scotland must then pay its fair share directly of all costs incurred by the union, so things like defence and so on.
But think of it this way. Say 50 bn a year cones in in oil revenue. Does it really matter if that money is dispensed by London or Edinburgh? It is still going into the same economic group of people. No?
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