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Hi All,
I looks like I will be forced down the snake route, so as some one who has an ammount of Vis Studio experience (VB, VB.NET, C#) and a very solid background in C is there a route other than the Python for Beginners book I have gone through that basically give you an overview and simple examples rather than this is how you automate X with it. I mean I can write a text adventure, not automate things. 
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Merky Bucket  or Khosoenoem (according to the Hungarian guy across the office) 
modified 24-Apr-18 6:49am.
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This may help: Amazon[^] Chapter nineteen seems particularly relevant from what I've seen of Python so far.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Believe or not I was whistling 'I'm a Lumberjack' while downloading it...
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And later on you will do the full Monty 
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Dive Into Python - either for Python3 or Python2. IMO, Python3 is preferable - it's just about become the mainstream Python version - after nearly a decade since the first 3.0 release...
In addition - use tools like PyLint to check your code for issues that won't be found until runtime (if you're lucky!)... My favoured setup is to use Visual Studio Code, as it has a solid Python extension builtin (IIRC - easy enough to install if not) with pylint for checking and autopep8 to format my code (although yapf looks like it might do a more aesthetically pleasing job... Have to look at that!).
And then you'll want to get familiar with pip, or something slightly more sophisticated like pipenv.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I only found this *after* actually learning and using Python for some time: Obey The Testing Goat[^]. But I think it's a fantastic resource, not only for learning Python but for learning how to take a test-first approach.
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The first thing you need to know is that you are in luck. You may not know this, but you are. Visual Studio has some really good (and free) Python tools. Actually, they are excellent. They may or may not be better than PyCharm and PyDev (I have never used either of them enough to say). However, if you already know VS, stick with it. For the record, I love VS (for C and C++) and Eclipse (for Java).
As for books, I used two books. First, I read was "Python for Dummies" (no kidding). It helped a lot. Then I obtained (as a reference work), "Python Essential Reference (4th Edition)" by David Beazley.
Compared to C/VB/VB.NET/C#, Python is easy. The VS tools, make it even easier.
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Apols for not posting yesterday
Naming a neater column maybe (12)
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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NOMENCLATURE - an anagram of NEATER COLUMN
You really didn't want to do it tomorrow, did you? 
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Good man
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.
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Friends don't let friends create Websites.
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+5 
/ravi
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Well duh.
Still, she needs to d something.
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Michael Breeden wrote: Best tools for my friend to make a website
A hammer, if anything.
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I can address some aspects of the the Joomla option.
Ask these questions first:
1. Does the existing website provide all the other functionality that the organization requires?
2. Was that website put together by a someone with a development background? In other words is it well organised or not?
If yes to these then consider upgrading the existing website. The way to do this is not by developing your own plugin but by finding an existing extension (usually paid for) that will do the job.
Unless your friend has real knowledge of programming I would advise against developing a custom Joomla plugin. This will have ongoing support issues due to changes in Joomla etc. Also the "PHP in Joomla" is non-trivial unless you have PHP experience Setting up your workstation for Joomla development - Joomla! Documentation[^]
A Google search shows a number of ecommerce Paypal plugins for Joomla. These usually can be tested for free even if not free. The way to test is to set up a local server with XAMPP install the website and try the plugin there. Look at the history, support and reviews of any you consider. If you find one that does the job this can be a very good way to get you going.
If you choose not to upgrade the Joomla site then another option is to create a new website in Joomla or Drupal.
If neither of those options seem attractive then all others are on the table. In that case leveraging any existing knowledge is the way I would go.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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She said she was going to contact the ISP. She'll have more information.
Really, is the existing website well designed? That would determine a lot about where she goes.
I'm assuming she can use the existing PayPal plugin. Hopefully she doesn't need much else in the way of modifications.
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I used Wix to throw together a site, it was very simple and I thought looked good, but then I have appalling judgement.
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Me too. Why I'm asking here.
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Michael Breeden wrote: My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over.
As long as it does what she needs it to do, she shouldn't care what's behind the curtain, whether it's Joomla / PHP, Django / Pyhon, MVC / .NET, etc. Just as long as it's not Ruby on Rails. 
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