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In short, with the world we live in, it's best to keep that under wraps. Unless everyone knew each other's salary then that would be ok (psychologically speaking), but I doubt that will ever happen in our lifetime. Anyway, for some people to know and not others creates the problem of imbalance.
If nobody ever talked about things, even sensitive subjects like money, then nobody would ever learn anything past what their parents taught them. Society would never grow that way. Also, I find the better you get with money the less of a sensitive subject it is. It's only those without it that flip out all the time over it. So in short, communication is always good in the long term. Maybe not so much in the short term. It's like having to break up with someone who's no good for you. It sucks in the short term. Long term you're better off. In this case, the long term is learning better about your worth while the short term may mean quitting, etc.
I know for me, finding out more of this information has been useful. It's helped me to better see where my parents have stopped growing in life. They have their own idea of what a "good" salary is, which may or may not reflect anything accurate to our lives.
YMMW
Jeremy Falcon
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I was told that "we do not discuss salaries".
I told them not to worry, I was just as ashamed of it as they were.
"Abstract art? A product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered."
Al Capp
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Ha.
I haven't had a confidential salary since 1984.
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Honestly, I don't get the brouhaha about knowing other people's salaries.
Especially in tech, I think sharing this information should be mandatory.
It would remove lots of bias, especially towards women.
Also, it's interesting to note that if a company thinks that this will create discontent among the employees maybe they're not paying those employees right.
Sure, there will be the odd ones who think that they're being underpaid and really aren't, but if the salaries were shown then those outliers would quite quickly be identified as such.
And then, there's another thing: maybe you have a lower starting salary but you have better benefits.
So... I think salaries should be made transparent
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Seems like something that's going to work in theory, but not in practice.
In some theoretical world, an organization can demonstrably show that people who provide more value are compensated better.
In the real world, everybody has an ego and thinks they're a rock star. They will question the value data. "What I'm doing is way better than what Bob's doing, and Bob gets paid more."
Don't hate Bob because he's a better negotiator.
I've been doing this a long time, and have come across very few manager types who have the willingness, ability, and data to evaluate value based on performance. Mostly, it's whoever's bitching the most, and everyone else might get a COLA-type raise.
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As an employer, this is a very touchy subject.
No two people are equal. Sometimes I have to pay more than I want to someone, and someone else is happy to work for less than I would have guessed.
Our rules are that you keep it confidential. But we are a SMALL company.
Everyone has an IDEA what the others probably make based on lifestyle.
But I agree, this NEVER ends well when everyone starts talking...
Why does this guy make soooo much? What? I am paid the lowest? (someone has to be).
Even worse. I had an old boss who paid himself LESS than all of us, and shared that willingly. As if a badge of honor. Of course, he owned the place, and took shareholders distribution whenever there was money he needed, or left over... But it was HIS company. That should be understood. It was just the presentation that NOBODY realized that was funny.
Do great work. Help others, attend to your weaknesses, and learn to talk to your bosses.
Dress for your next job. Set your goals and obtain them. It's an amazing world in the end!
And we are INCREDIBLY well paid...
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A great many take a cake to a social event (9)
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Abundance
a bun = cake
dance = social event
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Clearly far, far too easy!
You are up tomorrow.
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Being easter an all my favourite easter quote - "Don't get hung up over Easter" Leon Russell - Mad Dogs and Englishmen
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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You would probably be happy if I wished 'dicke Eier' on you for this holiday?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Ah yes! Chocolate Egg Worship season!
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I was thinking more of da bun(or bunnies) in abundance
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Would dat be der hot cross bunnies?
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Dems da ones
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Come on Guys, Give us poor souls at least to make an attempt on solving this
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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I gave you two minutes
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Thank you for being so considerate. Really value that 2 minutes
cheers,
Super
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Hey - that's a long time!
Think about it: your PC has time for 1.2E13 instructions, so that's loads of time to solve a CCC!
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I assume the PC is as smart as the person between the keyboard and chair. So in that case, I can safely say my PC is not very fast and smart
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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And the majority of those instructions are used to send your data to Microsoft...
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Who here has obsessive voting disorder?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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They do seem to be somewhat indiscriminate, don't they?
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They don't like Rajesh and pwasser for some reason.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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We're in the wrong time zone.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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