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Agreed. Crafts-people don't sit and talk about the nuances. We're out there building stuff and driving it at 200mph toward the cliff, hoping it'll fly when the ground is gone.
A lot of times, it don't. (And grammar is optional.)
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Marc Clifton wrote: "coders" aren't even interested in sharpening (pun intended) their skills relevant to work
Personally, I'm not real passionate about my primary tasks at work -- it's all drag-and-drop SSIS.
BUT that doesn't mean that I'm not passionate about the things that I do enjoy, and whenever I have a chance to do "real" development (primarily console utilities that help me do everything else), then I'm back in scha-wing-town full-tilt boogie.
What I do want to get back to is writing code for my own home projects, which have stagnated the last few years. This evening I'm back to looking at a new attack on my holy grail of Data Access Layers. I have made several attempts over the last fifteen years, but each inevitably bloats and becomes unmanageable -- so adding new features is impossible. Every few years I have to start fresh with a new feature set.
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Whenever I'm asked "is coding something you're passionate about?" I want to kick the person asking the question in the head until they expire (I don't mean that literally!). What is really being asked? Is the expected answer "I think and talk about code 24/7"? If so then that doesn't leave much time for a real life and I am not that person. One of the definitions of "passion" from Merriam-Webster is "a strong liking or desire for or devotion to some activity, object, or concept". I strongly like programming. Am I "devoted"? Nah. But I have been creating software for over 40 years, have not done any other type of work, and can't imagine doing anything else. And because I have a strong liking for the craft of programming, I keep an eye on the industry, and continuously develop as a programmer. So, if that's "passion" then I'm passionate. Otherwise, whatever... Okay, that was a bit of a rant but I do feel better now.
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The other person I work with is not nerdy enough to hang out here!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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So, a non-geek it geek? or a Sales guy who knows what he doing (save me from the most convoluted mess of VB.NET you have everseen)!!
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I'm betting on Purrl...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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No, it's C, I read it in my first book: "A is for apples, B is for balloons, C is for cats ..."
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Uh Ooooooh!
Please tell me it was not this book![^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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NERD!
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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You have been waiting for that, right?
Of course I take that as a compliment. What superpowers do you have?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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CodeWraith wrote: What superpowers do you have? I can make disappear 9 hours in 5 minutes of reading tvtropes. Or reading anything, actually.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Excuse me....!!
Skiprope is for girls! What do you mean by posting a drawing of a boy using one?
And then you continue with a drawing of a boy in his underwear, a rather skimpy variant.
The final drawing is of a man about to step on the paw of a cat, smiling!
I guess this reveals a few things about your personality.
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Sadly, you are right. I want to install Fallout again and you don't want to know what will happen when I'm done with that book
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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I'm thinking anything on a mainframe; if they try to use a modern computer with a mouse or mousepad, well... there goes the mouse at snack time!
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Possibly LISP, or another language that's suited to fuzzy logic.
If a cat tried to use perl, you'd see something like
open file or die die die die die die die die die
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Methinks you mean furry logic.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Any language that supports a self claws.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Isn't it an insult to any cat to suggest a need for any sort of support?
Cats are too proud to depend on anyone, or anything!
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None. A cat would get the dog to do the dog work of programming. Cats are born as project managers.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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I believe that every *nix shell scipting language has support for cat.
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Based on the cats for whom I've been a client, probably APL running on top of a run-time built in Forth.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Regarding APL: Reading the book of books, I get the impression that the APL is exactly what brought sin into the world.
According to the same source, Forth is the language of choice.
Not only are we told which language to use, but even which operators to use -
"Go Forth and Multiply".
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I'm thinking Scratch
Don't let your mind wander too far.
It's too small to be let out alone.
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Given that some people treat their cats as gods, isn't Rule 4 being violated?
Quoted from Rules: No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions. Or if you must, use the Back Room[^] - but enter at your own risk.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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