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I suppose having started and continuing to maintain a successful company (i.e. one with positive cash flow and zero debt) qualifies me as an entrepreneur. But I must admit, what really turns me on is building software that meets the needs of end users and makes their lives easier.
I would much rather want to be involved in identifying and satisfying my customers' business needs (by building software) than be involved in growing a company or selling a product.
/ravi
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Very interesting and very cool that you are running your own successful business. Congrats and thanks for the feedback.
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newton.saber wrote: Many devs, by nature, are also entrepreneurs? I feel many devs, by nature, are just like people, bunglers (fun fact, first time I ever used that word in English, I use it daily in Dutch).
I'm not an entrepeneur yet. Just bought a house, got a new job, happy the way I am. For now.
newton.saber wrote: I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. Your website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too. Like a nice layout that attracts people and makes them want to come back. And previous, next and random buttons. Perhaps a comment section. That sort of stuff. I want goodies like stickers, mugs and t-shirts too.
Other than that I like the picture, I like the quote, I like the idea
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Sander Rossel wrote: our website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too.
That was really nice of you to even take a look at the thing and then to take time for feedback.
I really appreciate it. And you are right about all the missing features.
Thanks,
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Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it.
I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes
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Thanks again. That's really nice. Also you are thinking of some functionality that I was hoping to do myself. Great stuff. I'll keep you updated.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Your website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too. Lord Archer wouldn't have made those mistakes.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I know exactly none of them[^]
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In typical Monday-morning fashion (after watching another useless Lord-Archer type on TV, saying that he would not stand as British PM for a third term), I typed "Lord Archer" instead of "Lord Sugar".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I don't know Lord Sugar either. I'm sorry, but your jokes are wasted on me today
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Didn't ring a bell... Perhaps we should both give up
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You're fired!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I am but don't code for living (yet) although it is closely coupled as we do network / computer stuff.
I can debug and code all day in between revenue generating tasks an nobody can say nuttin!
I feel very fortunate.
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Ron Anders wrote: I can debug and code all day
I know it's the same for me. Working on code is great.
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How many is many? A dozen?
Speaking mainly from my own experience, I believe that very few developers would be good at running a business. And historically, there have been fewer than a hundred I expect. They get a lot of attention because they're so rare.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: very few developers would be good at running a business
Ah, yes you are probably right, because many of us just want to code and focus on technical details. Running a business requires so much other surrounding work.
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And we're likely to just give our stuff away to anyone who wants it. Not generally a very mercenary bunch.
modified 23-Mar-15 21:13pm.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role!
I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business.
Yeah, I know and I agree with you on this. I understand what you mean and what others are saying too.
I think what I was thinking is more about the risks (entrepreneur) of trying to build something and make something. Not necessarily running a business straight up, but the challenges of making something that solves a problem.
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A wiser person than me said: "A man's got to know his limitations". I don't feel comfortable enough to drive a business, and seeing my girlfriend (Management Engineering) managing a big fantasy convention I confirmed it. I'm a way better developer/problem solver than a businessman.
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Well, an entrepreneur developer don't have to necessarily be the business person.
This is why having good partners goes a long way to the success.
Entrepreneur means you like to create a service that generate revenue, instead of selling your time.
Thinking that the developer needs to be a business person for entrepreneurship is fallacy and dangerous if he does not like it.
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Spam!
No advertising in the lounge.
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