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Your messages are getting flagged so I'm replying here because I can't stand the wait! =)
I can still read them via email though.
It's a Pro 4750G not a 4750 sorry. Not a laptop. Something of a monster desktop chip.
Here are excerpts from my CPU-Z report (sorry for the length)
Socket 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 8 (max 8)
Number of threads 16 (max 16)
Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
Name AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G
Codename Renoir
Specification AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G with Radeon Graphics
Package Socket AM4 (1331)
CPUID F.0.1
Extended CPUID 17.60
Core Stepping RN-A1
Technology 7 nm
TDP Limit 65.0 Watts
Tjmax 95.0 °C
Core Speed 3539.6 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 35.75 x 99.0 MHz
Base frequency (cores) 99.0 MHz
Base frequency (ext.) 99.0 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Microcode Revision 0x8600106
L1 Data cache 8 x 32 KB (8-way, 64-byte line)
L1 Instruction cache 8 x 32 KB (8-way, 64-byte line)
L2 cache 8 x 512 KB (8-way, 64-byte line)
L3 cache 2 x 4 MB (16-way, 64-byte line)
Max CPUID level 0000000Dh
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Eh
FID/VID Control yes
# of P-States 3
Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR4
Module format UDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID) TEAMGROUP Inc. (7F7F7F7FEF000000000000000000)
SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) SpecTek Incorporated (7F7FB50000000000000000000000)
Size 16384 MBytes
Max bandwidth DDR4-2401 (1200 MHz)
Part number TEAMGROUP-UD4-3200
Serial number 0202D900
Manufacturing date Week 47/Year 20
Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes, rev. 2.0
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-25-35 @ 750 MHz
JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-27-38 @ 825 MHz
JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-29-41 @ 900 MHz
JEDEC #4 13.0-13-13-32-45 @ 975 MHz
JEDEC #5 14.0-15-15-34-48 @ 1051 MHz
JEDEC #6 15.0-16-16-37-52 @ 1126 MHz
JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
JEDEC #8 17.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
JEDEC #9 18.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
XMP profile XMP-3200
Specification DDR4-3200
VDD Voltage 1.350 Volts
Min Cycle time 0.625 ns (1600 MHz)
Max CL 16.0
Min tRP 12.50 ns
Min tRCD 12.50 ns
Min tRAS 25.00 ns
Min tRC 37.50 ns
Min tRRD 3.75 ns
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 15.0-19-19-38-57-n.a @ 1500 MHz (1.350 Volts)
XMP #2 16.0-20-20-40-60-n.a @ 1600 MHz (1.350 Volts)
XMP #3 17.0-20-20-40-60-n.a @ 1600 MHz (1.350 Volts)
DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR4
Module format UDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID) TEAMGROUP Inc. (7F7F7F7FEF000000000000000000)
SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) SpecTek Incorporated (7F7FB50000000000000000000000)
Size 16384 MBytes
Max bandwidth DDR4-2401 (1200 MHz)
Part number TEAMGROUP-UD4-3200
Serial number 0202D8CF
Manufacturing date Week 47/Year 20
Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes, rev. 2.0
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-25-35 @ 750 MHz
JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-27-38 @ 825 MHz
JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-29-41 @ 900 MHz
JEDEC #4 13.0-13-13-32-45 @ 975 MHz
JEDEC #5 14.0-15-15-34-48 @ 1051 MHz
JEDEC #6 15.0-16-16-37-52 @ 1126 MHz
JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
JEDEC #8 17.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
JEDEC #9 18.0-16-16-39-55 @ 1200 MHz
XMP profile XMP-3200
Specification DDR4-3200
VDD Voltage 1.350 Volts
Min Cycle time 0.625 ns (1600 MHz)
Max CL 16.0
Min tRP 12.50 ns
Min tRCD 12.50 ns
Min tRAS 25.00 ns
Min tRC 37.50 ns
Min tRRD 3.75 ns
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 15.0-19-19-38-57-n.a @ 1500 MHz (1.350 Volts)
XMP #2 16.0-20-20-40-60-n.a @ 1600 MHz (1.350 Volts)
XMP #3 17.0-20-20-40-60-n.a @ 1600 MHz (1.350 Volts)
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Seems like a good hardware configuration at a first look. What profile did you select in the BIOS for the RAM? I see your memory has a 3200 MHz XMP profile available. Did you select that profile in the BIOS?
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Ryzen is spec'd to 95C. However standard practice for silicon is 65C if you want it to last. The lifetime vs heat is not a linear curve, you can kill a chip very quickly as you approach 125C.
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I think it probably should run a little hotter under heavy load. My CPU isn't giving me performance numbers I expect of a Ryzen 4750G. The numbers aren't awful - they're within the ballpark(ish), but it's kind of like one of the cylinders isn't firing sometimes.
So when I look at the cooling numbers (running cooler than normal) and combine that with the performance numbers (running slower than normal) it leads me to believe my chip is being underutilized by my mobo and/or bios.
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If you're running Windows 11, there a a lot of driver issues that the chip manufacturers are working through yet. Also remember that you might be comparing your cpu to people that have tweaked theirs to maximize its performance, including not running the TPM module which has been shown to lower performance quite a bit.
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All modern desktop grade CPUs have been running at those temperatures for a long time now. Intel included. Big SIs like Dell or HP only use the bare minimum needed cooling so this is also something to keep in mind.
65 C is a fantastic temp under load. My R5 3600XT hits 75 C under Prime95 stress test with a CoolerMaster EVO-212 black edition on it. If you are dissatisfied with your heat levels, you would need to invest in either a very high end air cooler like something from Noctua, Scythe or BeQuiet; or you would need to go water cooling with an AIO. All of this assumes you can even fit the coolers into your system. I custom build all my PCs so I know I can put in whatever cooler I might need to go to in the future.
As for voltages, the funny thing with Ryzen is that they actually do better with less voltage in many cases. I ran a full per CCX/core tune on my system and found that performance went up, some voltages were set lower and overall heat didn't change any that mattered.
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I'd be thrilled with the temp if I wasn't also lagging in CPU performance compared to other setups with the same CPU. I suspect something with my mobo/bios configuration.
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I'm already running 2x16.
Anyway, I've got a bigger issue now, and I'll probably need a whole new case and cooling system.
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.. with working on my own home project for many years in a stop and go fashion.
Every time I stumbled on something I don't like, I improve it!
Even though it's my own code, 6 months later, there is always plenty of thing that need improvement it turns out.
And the end result grow increasingly functional yet simple at the same time. Loving the look of it!
modified 23-Dec-21 1:42am.
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Super Lloyd wrote: grow increasingly functional yet simple at the same time
A sure sign your software is improving. Congrats on good design.
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The power of refactoring. Thanks! 💓
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now I see many good deals for monitors, especially curved monitors.
but I am not sure what kind of benefit of using curved monitor instead of flat monitors.
diligent hands rule....
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that link is great!
diligent hands rule....
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I just bought a new monitor, and was considering a curved one. I think a curved monitor would be great for watching video and playing games.
I do the user interfaces for our products, so I spend a lot of time judging control layouts. Like everyone else here at CP, I also spend a lot of time looking at code. I think a curved monitor would be distracting in both cases, at least for me.
I bought a flat monitor.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: I spend a lot of time judging control layouts. Like everyone else here at CP, I also spend a lot of time looking at code. I think a curved monitor would be distracting in both cases I feel the same way.
All the devs at my organization use multiple flat screen monitors at work and at home. I'm eager to know how devs find working with a curved screen. Because I have limited desk space at home (and am therefore forced to use a single monitor), I'm contemplating replacing my 1920x1200 screen with an ultra-wide panel.
/ravi
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I no longer use multiple monitors. Instead I use one 4k 55" and just tile my windows using Win+Arrow
It's way more flexible and clean, IMO, and less cable mess.
I'll never go back.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I'll never go back.
Never Say Never.
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/ravi
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I only use a single monitor nowadays, at least at home. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and a second monitor doesn't buy me anything now, as I have to move too much to see anything on it.
I keep a 2nd monitor at work, but that's only because it's the same touch screen monitor we use in our products. I occasionally need to check layouts on the same precise resolution as the product.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I have two curved monitors and my brain adjusted to the point where they now look flat and the flat screen on the adjacent laptop looks bowed out. In the end, I think they are more hype than anything else.
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understood
diligent hands rule....
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You can display 2 applications side by side on an ultra-wide curved monitor.
I do not have that kind of money to splurge on myself.
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