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I switched away from Apple products around the time the Lisa flopped. I'm now on a ZFold 4 from Samsung (started on a 3 a few years back and am waiting for the 6 - the 5 is hardly an upgrade). I know it is expensive but I use it for my 6 email accounts (Outlook app) and reading my Kindle Unlimited subscription. My big fat fingers always hit 5 keys on a small screen while simply holding the phone so I love the large keyboard when it is opened. Almost did a Microsoft Duo but was told you have to open it to see who is calling. Too hooked to change now assuming they improved it.
I was a Windows Phone lover until it died. Android is the lesser of the evils in my book. I've always hated proprietary hardware with no alternatives. If I get upset with Samsung there are plenty of other Android phones to look at. I use Microsoft Launcher personally.
Sadly, you have to sell yourself to some cloud service or other these days to make it in this AI-frenzied world (I don't use AI). Been developing software for 41 years so I think I count as an old Caucasian male.
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Samsung S8. Had it for 7+ years. Still working fine. Battery life is still ok, but I need to recharge every day.
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Microsoft Lumia 950. It cost a little over $100 and keeps me from having to engage in Big Tech's iPhone/Android duopoly. Does all I need it to do. Since Microsoft is steadily turning off more and more of its features through forced 365 subscriptions and certificate extortion, I'm thinking about upgrading to an HTC smartphone for $261 which was produced in 2012. I'll give it another few years, though, just to see what happens. Don't wanna be too hasty here.
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Another old guy here. My philosophy on phone purchases is the same as for automobiles: I buy the most basic product offering from a company I know I can (reasonably) trust for quality and drive it until the wheels fall off. I currently have an iPhone 12 (and a 2015 Toyota Tacoma and a 2011 Camry).
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Galaxy Note 20 Ultra.
Mainly used for texting and 2FA. I will occasionally take a photo with it but I prefer using a camera for that. I got it as a refurbished special from my service provider.
It handles voice calls well but I don't like talking to people.
I don't think I'm old but I do remember when phones came with wires attached and were provided free of charge by TPC (The Phone Company). I grew up in a small village where we had a local operator. Our phone number was 66. A friend lived out in the countryside. His phone number was line 5 ring 3. Things all changed in the early 1960's when the operator was replaced by an automated exchange and our crank phones were replaced by rotary dial units. It was about that time that the pace of change started to accelerate.
As I said, I don't think I'm old but I probably am.
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Nokia Lumia 930
The last Windows phone running I think. 
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certainly an old timer and in most respects I reuse, repurpose old equipment all the time. I have 1963 Ford, I have a 12yr old Lenovo s10-3t netbook. my primary home computer is a cast off dell from work that I put Linux on. BUT I have the latest and greatest phones usually. I currently have a Samsung Fold 5 and I love that sucker. I can and have done my entire job from that phone. I like that my old eyes can see the screen when I unfold it. I like that I can use a VPN connection and then RDP to a server and work on it if I have something down at work. (Doesn't happen much for me) and I love that I can read books in the various ereader apps. but mostly I use it as a notebook for jotting notes and journaling. Which I have done now for 30 years. soo.
#1 app Journaling apps (Samsung Notes, OneNote or Joplin)
#2 app Kindle or Libby for my local library.
Wonderful piece of kit it is.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Sony Ericsson W300i. No spam. No tracking me or my doings. No ads. It's a phone...to make phone calls. Yes, I'm the guy that walks down the sidewalk looking straight ahead (not down at a screen)!
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I have a nearly 3 year old Motorola G-Stylus phone. My phones last an average of 3 to 5 years depending on how well I treat the battery.
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Samsung A23 provided by work. Previously Samsung A22 and Samsung Note 8.
All are dual sim so have also had installed my personal sim card for which I pay about £4/month.
I can't see the point in carrying 2 phones around.
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I always stayed with my "smart" flip-phone instead of one of those "dumb phones".
My own "smart" phone is smaller and thus easier to carry. And without all the stupid features, which no one really needs, my little phone ensures that I rely on my brain and not someone else's algorithm.
"Dumb phones" seem to have only made our country much dumber than it already was because it allows everyone to create their own little self-deluded bubbles while allowing someone else to think for them.
When someone tells you that they find their "dumb phones" very helpful, simply ask them when was the last time they read a credible military analysis of the US' wars across the globe...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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My SO found this this morning and thought it worth passing on.
1. Two times a week, we go to a nice restaurant, have a little beverage, good food and companionship. She goes on Tuesdays, I go on Fridays.
2. We also sleep in separate beds. Hers is in California and mine is in Texas.
3. I take my wife everywhere...but she keeps finding her way back.
4. I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary. "Somewhere I haven't been in a long time!" she said. So I suggested the kitchen.
5. We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.
6. She has an electric blender, electric toaster and electric bread maker. She said "There are too many gadgets and no place to sit down!" .. So I bought her an electric chair.
7. My wife told me the car wasn't running well because there was water in the carburator. I asked where the car was; she told me "In the lake."
8. She got a mud pack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off.
9. She ran after the garbage truck, yelling "Am I too late for the garbage?" .... The driver said "No, jump in!"
10. Remember: Marriage is the number one cause of divorce.
11. I married Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always.
12. I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her.
13. The last fight was my fault though. My wife asked "What's on the TV?" I said "Dust!"
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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good comedy requires a bit of truth in it so your audience can identify.
i am not sharing this with my wife.  I miss red
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I miss red
Me too.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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you youngsters out there - how many of you know who Red Skelton is? 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Me, Me. Oh, wait.
He could entertain and keep it SFW.
I don't think I missed any of his movies back in the day.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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I can imagine them reading your subject line and picturing a red skeleton giving marriage advice.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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I was never a big fan of him, but I do miss his wit.
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so I've never been a fan of stupidity, mine or anyone elses', and Microsoft seems to have staff meetings to escalate theirs.
Enter Apple.
I really don't watch much TV, maybe 1 or 2 football games a year (never soccer) and some ice hockey now and then, but I discovered I can see game re-caps on youtube, so good enough for me. I'm simply not going to pay $75/month for the right to turn off garbage tv. So Spielberg and Hanks FINALLY came out with Masters of the Air which was mostly utter nonsense with the exception of the US Army Airforce crews being slaughtered until the P51 Mustang became available. The German pilots were mean SOBs - no offense intended. So, I subscribed to Apple TV to catch the episodes, and with the last episode, I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
Checking credit card statements, they have continued to charge me, and on their web site make it nigh impossible to cancel. Canceled it twice, still being charged. Cannot get anyone to help me - they claim they do, but the charges kept coming. Okay, want to play this game? Created a virtual credit card # with a $1/day max amount, swapped the apple tv <-- this is my mistake here -- to that account #. I also refused the charges on my account. Do you think Apple might contact me? I've had an iPhone for 6+ years, etc. Nope.
My iPhone will no longer allow me access to the app store (all I tried to do was update a free app).
This is why I DESPISE single login. It is 8am on the east coast of America, 6/2/2024. I will now start a gambling pool for when all $hit breaks loose from my wife, older daughter, younger daughter who are all on my account.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Quote: I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
1. you can't win
2. you can't break even.
3. you can't get out of the game
So, what's new? 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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shut up old guy  said from an old guy....
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Yup, these days I shake my head a lot.
Now I understand what my grandfather meant when he said something about a hand basket.
(every hundred years, all new people)
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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File a complaint with the FTC.
The "Restore Online Shoppers' Confidence Act" is supposed to make that easy. The FTC is now attempting to put more rules into place to force companies to make it as easy to cancel as it is to sign up.
If feeling snarky you might also send a letter afterwards to them telling them you have filed a complaint.
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I found cancelling the credit card an effective way to remove the leeches but then I don't have 2 daughters attached to the account.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Get the cancellation confirmation in writing and then dispute the charges. Include the cancellation. If the credit card company goes with Apple, just call them and tell them your card was lost and they'll kill the old card number in a heartbeat.
Then go to your local phone company and buy an Android device for everyone.
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