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Mark_Wallace wrote: I don't think the later versions have done much to make the code itself any better;
An IDE is not supposed to affect code quality - Tools as for example Resharper are, but they still remain tools. In the end it remains the dev's responsibility to produce as good code as possible, given the time frame he has.
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So now actions (install/update/delete) are scheduled for extensions, and executed only when you shut down VS... But now you have to close all the instances immediately to let the scheduled process to finish...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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From the sound of all this trouble with VS2017, I'm thinking I ought to go back to writing my code in pencil and mailing it to people.
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Spend a week with Eclipse, and you'll be overjoyed to return to VS, no matter how bad it is.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm actually using Eclipse (neon.2) for PHP at work... It works perfectly for that...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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My last was Luna, and before that, Indigo -- for Java and C 
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I am just waiting for the Vim-kidz to enter the scene... 
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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One reason to go back to XP is that it still had edlin*.
* Of course, that depends on your level of masochism
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Or, I can do my coding on one of my OpenVMS systems and FTP the files over...
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Spend a week with Eclipse
A week? Five minutes is sufficient.
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Annoyingly, it looks like you also have to close all instances of VS2015 to let the process finish. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Exactly... More then annoying... In a long time the first version of Visual Studio that can't play nicely with other - running - instances of the same or older versions... It seems I'm on my way to dump this version... And I had high hopes to get a quick VS to me...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yes it is spam.
Or will be, after some grinding and canning.
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"Contains everything you need to get started - just add pork"
That's the tricky part.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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I'm surprised that people haven't gone crazy with the reviews on that one. I'm half tempted to post a funny review myself! 
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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Do it, but I think you have to buy the product first, before they let you post a review these days. Remember to share the bacon butties around. 
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Ok, you talked me into it. Here you go[^].
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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 I think you may have started something there. I wonder if they leave your review up.
Did you buy a kit?
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55378008 wrote: Did you buy a kit?
No. First I tried to create a bogus account, but amazon requires at least one purchase of anything (except free stuff) before you can post a review. So I ended up having to use my own account, which makes payroll for a few employees at amazon
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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 Brilliant!
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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