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Gerry Schmitz wrote: And makes your hair dye run.
That wasn't hair dye. Crazy Grandpa is so full of sh*t it's coming out of his ears! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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No fools like old fools.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: there is no evidence it works
On a serious note though, it does work. Not trying to hijack this thread or get political, but WHO has an agenda, that does not always sync with other medical studies and professionals.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2007764[^]
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*cue evil music*
An agenda!
I have an agenda.
Code Project has an agenda.
Unless you are in a coma, you have an agenda.
And naturally, an organization with a stated mission has an agenda, and the agenda is fairly obvious if one reads it. What we do[^]
If you're suggesting their agenda is something nefarious, that's another story, but I'd need to see evidence and some incentive for them to engage in such cartoon villainry. Otherwise I couldn't really entertain the notion.
Real programmers use butterflies
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all I am saying is that thousands of health care professionals around the world do not agree with WHO's standings, statements, official comments, studies, research, findings, etc.
Even the CDC and WHO contradict each other on a daily basis.
cartoon or not...
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I'm not sure what people having disagreements with WHO is supposed to be evidence of.
Sorry, I get confused easily.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Quote:
I'm not sure what people having disagreements with WHO is supposed to be evidence of.
Science!
Science allows for opinions to change as more knowledge is accumulated. Too many people these days just hear something said by someone and take that as a fact. A fact forever. They get very upset when their "facts" are disputed and/or updated. People need to be more flexible in their opinions - that, in my opinion, is a sign of intelligence - being prepared to update your "facts" as more information becomes available and not getting too upset about it.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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My point was that people having disagreements doesn't mean there's necessarily anything there. This is the Internet, and I can find someone to disagree with just about anything.
But I do understand *your* point that yes, if people want absolute certainty in their beliefs, they need look to religion, not science for that, because science is always open to revision in light of new evidence.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just clarifying my support of your point.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I wasn't entirely sure, which probably has something to do with the spasms of pain I'm getting up and down my neck this morning and interfering with my ability to focus. 
I must have slept on it wrong.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I'm sorry to hear that. Sounds like time for a long, hot bath.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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This paper was published on the 5th of november.
But the enrollment began on February 21, 2020, and ended on April 19, 2020.
What makes you believe WHO is so much faster that they change their policy after just a few weeks?
One problem is that there are plenty more studies around with varying results.
And that's the problem with Meta studies is that they are comparing the results of overlapping studies done with slightly different goals and implementations and therefore also varying results.
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Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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I am not saying WHO is full of crap. I am simply pointing out that not everyone/study agrees with WHO's findings.
It would be ludicrous for us to blindly believe everything WHO says at face value.
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: no evidence it works
That does not sound like the sort of language scientists would use.
Science tends to use the language of probability and even then that probability needs to be tied to a very specific variable.
As another example, 95% effectiveness of a vaccine does not tell us in what manner the vaccine is effective.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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All the news is about "maybe vaccines". Other than "one (questionable) instance" we haven't heard anything more about this "miracle drug" until recently (from WHO), who's biggest problem is a lack of backbone (not a "secret" agenda).
Now Pfizer is asking for "special authority" to release their gold-plated vaccine.
And Putin's "magic bullet" seems to have misfired.
There's "optimism". Then there's burying your head in the sand.
(Speaking rhetorically).
And, the WHO announcement seems to coincide with another "event". Everyone is putting their big boy pants on again.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Only 2/3 of them survived, it seems. There were 12 
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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For once I thought in the DC super hero series it happened!
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The Badger was First Comics not DC.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: The Badger was First Comics not DC.
That was from word 'Flash'  and thus DC.
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Good to have flash emulator!
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Nice! 
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Who said Mac's are no use!
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