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So I got a new box at my office, that came preinstalled by HP...Usually I do a full install, but I thought to save some time this time, so only checked what to clean...
I found over 20 (stoped counting) crappy software, like pdf reader, security managers of many kinds, virtual DVD and so on, from various software providers already sitting on my disk and eating resources...
I remember those days when HP was a decent company...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Quote: I remember those days when HP was a decent company...
So I do, but that was around before 20 years 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Yeah - that would be shortly after I left them.
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I have an HP laptop (a few years old). In my case, the recovery partition gives two options - install everything (crapware included), or install just the O/S with the required drivers.
I take it that option (2) no longer exists 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I do not know - wiped the disk clean...I do not need local recovery as the computer backed up every night to a server...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Every pre-installment comes with quite a few junks, it's been like this for as long as I can remember...
Anyway I can understand virtual DVD, hell even security managers, but calling PDF reader a junk software? Whouu... go figure...
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If you got a PDF reader (in this case it is from Foxit) where half the screen is about how you should download (pay) and install full version instead of the pre installed cut-down version - it is more than junk...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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OMG it came with a Foxit Reader, in that case I agree, my condolences 
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WTE did that happen. None of the versions I used ever had more than the normal toobar/menu at top.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: I thought to save some time this time, so only checked what to clean
These days it takes far longer to manually uninstall all the crapware that comes preloaded with an OEM PC than to nuke the hard drive and reinstall the OS from scratch. And then install the patches and drivers. As long as you can identify the drivers from Device Manager and download them before wiping it, you're almost always going to come out ahead taking that approach - especially if you ever end up having to do it again.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: I remember those days when HP was a decent company...
I must be getting foggy, because I've used (not owned, used) my first HP machine somewhere around the mid-90s and I don't recall that ever being the case. The good they've done with their printer division gets cancelled out by what their PC division is doing. And even then, when you have to download 1+ GB worth of crapware just to get their printer drivers...that's just evil.
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All of them make more or less the same...
The last laptop from Lenovo I got, though, came without anything like that (neither superfish) which is surprising at least...
Any HP computer we bought in our company came free of bloatware... all of them were workstations for our design department.
I guess depending on the product line manufacturers make one thing or another...
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Quote: I remember those days when HP was a decent company
Then you're even older than me.
Note, I'm referring to the pc's here. The 4000 series printers we're admittedly an excellent product.
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>>Quote: I remember those days when HP was a decent company...
AH the days of HP 3000s 
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Since the days of the 56K modem together...
That is amazing.
Congratulations ![Green Alien | [Alien]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/alien.gif) and all the people who work to make it possible! 
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Thanks Joan. I actually started with a 33K modem, and when the V92's came out I was a happy boy!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Ah, you youngster! I cut my teeth on a state of the art 300 baud in '81.
/ravi
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You are a mere kiddie!
I started with a teletype attached via an acoustic coupler on a regular phone line in 1975!
Cutting edge stuff, back then.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: I started with a teletype attached via an acoustic coupler on a regular phone line in 1975!
In '81 I used a Digital LA20 as a teletype for a couple of months before we switched to VT100s running at an incredibly fast 1200 baud.
/ravi
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You're all kiddies!
In my day when we wanted to send a message to someone we had to carry stone slabs with text carved in them!
Alright, I confess... 
I've never done anything serious on the internet without cable
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Sander Rossel wrote: In my day when we wanted to send a message to someone we had to carry stone slabs with text carved in them!
Well, I'm not quite as old as you claim to be. In my day, we had mobile communications.
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If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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...and a hearty happy birthday! Thanks for everything, CM! ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
/ravi
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Congrats CodeProject!
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Joan Murt wrote: Since the days of the 56K modem together...
I remember discovering CP using a 64/128K ISDN (Information Subscribers Don't Need was the acronym used by the telco companies because they hated it) and published my first few articles on that old hardware.
Single core CPU's, clock rates still measured in gigahertz, 50 lb monitors...and the weird thing is, I'm basically still writing about the same stuff -- the process of software development really hasn't improved much, imHo.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: clock rates still measured in gigahertz
I think you meant MHz.
/ravi
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