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You stole my thunder..
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Sorry! 
Fortunately, I don't work with any dickheads in my current job but in the past I have worked with many. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Thou art blessed.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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It has been a frustrating morning trying to get a webserver on my home-office network visible to the world. Background: I have replaced my DSL service with business class cable. What really confuses me is that I have been issued a static IP address of 70.xx.xx.145. The cable router/gateway, uses another IP address 70.aa.aa.146 with a local address of 192.xx.xx.2 and is now the DHCP server. (starting at 102) My webserver has a static internal IP address of 192.xx.xx.100.
All devices and workstations, including the webserver can access the internet. No problem there. The cable modem/router was configured to forward ports 80 and 21 to the webserver. This did not work. What 'kinda' worked was changing the static IP address of the webserver to 70.xx.xx.145. This allows the webserver to be seen at the static IP address, but creates another problem...the server is also a file server and needs to be available on the local network on a 192 address. I have also tried setting up a 1-to-1 NAT (public 70.xx.xx.145 to private 192.xx.xx.100) but this does not work.  Do they really expect me to use an external IP address on my webserver?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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The router part of the cable modem/router of my ex-ISP was so sh*t that I disabled the whole router part and put a proper router behind it. Would that be an option here? Because it sounds like it might be sh*t.
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Watch out for the utterly clueless techsupport morons if you do that. I initially did that when my parents had their modem replaced as part of a network upgrade. In doing so, I followed the instructions on the printed booklet they provided to switch their router into bridge mode and connect it with mine. Fast forward about 6mo and their internet stops working. It's the middle of the week and a 3.5h round trip to try and fix it isn't possible so my sister's forced to call their support staff. The person she talked to said the settings were totally trashed, accused her of maliciously tampering with it, and implied they could cancel service/call the cops over it.   Also, the only thing they could do was a factory reset. At that point the wired connection worked but wifi didn't and apparently their support monkey couldn't fix it.
I got out the next weekend and found that the modem/router had a massively changed web interface.
The new UI was needed since their original one:
1) Was broken on anything smaller than a 1600x1200 display (non-scrolling sidebar that fell off the bottom of the screen)
2) Exposed a whole bunch of settings that I assume were ISP-side DSL magic; from Googling the company I suspect the device they got was intended for use by ISP owned and operated hotspots only.
3) Had the hotspot name/password controlled by a dropdown that wasn't editable.
The new UI fixed all of those problems, and once I changed the SSID/password to match what the old network used everything worked perfectly. Or as perfectly as a router with 2 of 4 wired ports blocked/disabled, that was G only (despite N being available in bargain basement boxmart models), and possibly because it was a single antenna design gave much poorer quality signals in the rest of the house than the netgear I'd given them years before.
Mostly because I didn't want to have to make emergency trips home any time the thing barfed or have my sister try and communicate with the clueless morons I left the PoS router running as is and took my netgear home. If it was my network, at that point I'd've insisted on a modem that didn't have a router built in (assuming I hadn't done so initially).
I'm still not sure if the router/modem state got corrupted by the firmware update (given the companies demonstrated competence from the release firmware I'd be surprised if they tested with anything changed from factory defaults) and the settings on the modem side were genuinely fubarred; or if the phone monkey was too stupid to understand that not everyone wanted to use it in its out of the box failware mode.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: failware mode
My new favorite phrase! Thanks!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Would that be a Virgin Superhub ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Nope. It was a local/regional us ISP. The box was from a company with a name that IIRC was similar to the ungoogleable "zone".
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I actually upgraded to a higher package because the guy told me that 'the equipment with that package is better', with the intention of downgrading and keeping the 'better equipment'. I can get it to work by giving the webserver the static IP address that the cable co. provided, but that means a lot of headaches with SQL Server connections, not to mention the fact that I lose my ability to share files and access it locally. There has to be another way to keep my internal address on the web server.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I already have a decent Linksys router/AP hooked up for the wireless clients with DHCP disabled. The weird thing is the two IP addresses from the cable internet provider. The router uses a different IP address than the static IP address, so I'm thinking that I am not even hitting that router, or any of the settings that I have been madly tinkering with, on inbound requests. Maybe I don't understand how cable modem/routers work...the crux of the biscuit is, where do I enter the static IP in the cable modem settings? I tried to put this as the Linksys router's address, three time with different settings. That just puts the Linksys into a state that I can't access it's configuration anymore.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Surely the problem there is that the router is on a different address to the static IP??
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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After recovering from the mental whammy imposed by a 5-million line error, I wondered how many lines of code our current project was. The final count is 1,061,156. this number includes comments and blank lines because I consider them to be important parts of the coding process (comments tell a story about the code, and blank lines are organizational in nature, and therefore require a modicum of thought on the part of the programmer).
BTW, there are just two developers assigned to this code base, and the line count only includes the desktop apps (there is a dashboard and a web portal as well).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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You realize there is a bug on line 768,321? 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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What concerns me is the number of exceptions that are thrown (silently) as the program runs.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Hopefully they are logged, rather than swallowed?
He asked, fully assuming the complete opposite... 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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I'd argue that thousands of exceptions in a log file isn't much better then silently swallowing them.
It's interesting that interview questions often revolve around try/catch/finally. This bit is easy, its determining the flow of execution under errored conditions that is the tricky bit.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Logged? Why? Isn't empty catch blocks a good practice any more?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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Good practice is a messagebox that says, "The program was going to crash, but the programmer [insert name here] was too awesome to let that happen."
Not to mention lots of smiley faces to show how much of a good thing it is.
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Don't forget the cat picture. It always works. Or may be a link to pr0n website. Users tend forget all issues if we do that.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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An animated cat gif, too. Don't forget to make the messageboxes recursive, in case the animation has an error. Moar Kittiezz!!!1!
d@nish wrote: Or may be a link to pr0n website. Users tend forget all issues if we do that.
Obligatory Dilbert comic[^]
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In my current development I have a msg box that pops up and says "This is gonna be so sweet when we get this implemented!".
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Imagine a brace mismatch at line 249403. 
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That's why God made compilers.
Software Zen: delete this;
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God made compilers to imagine brace mismatches?
I think we're really screwed...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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