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I never know how many marketeer look at languages before choose names, but please someone tell MS guis that in the Northern-east italian dialect (but the word is well-known acros all Italy, southern Switzerland an the southern Austria) "mona" is ... the pussy.
An Monad is ... a pussy carrier ??
2 bugs found.
> recompile ...
65534 bugs found.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
One of the most exciting features in Vista is the Monad command shell (PowerShell)
Looks really cool 
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Nope.... me.
Was attempting to start a project using it and was looking around for code snippets and documentation and found that that there wasn't much out there which spawned the question....
The results so far are interesting.
Cheers
MrMike
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Wasn't me, Josh
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Nish
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Why must it be 'We'? Can't it be 'I'? That, i didn't vote.
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..."but they will fade to new technology and methods soon."
I think I heard that somewhere about cobol (about ten years ago), but it is still going strong in many bank / banking applications.
mfg
Phil
Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?
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Phil.Benson wrote: I think I heard that somewhere about cobol (about ten years ago),
I've been hearing that about C++ for the last 10 years - since Java first came out 
Anyway, the question was about C++/CLI, not C++.
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I will love to use a little or a lot of CLI on my Apps, but on one side I have too little time to learn it  . And at work no one see why we should being using it, and everybody is worry to meet the duedates 
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Amen brother...
Regards,
FG.
A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine.
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Douglas Troy wrote: If I'm doing anything .NET related, I use C#
If I need more speed, performance, I'll drop back to C++ on WTL
The primary use of C++/CLI is for mixed assemblies. If you have some working C++ code that you want to expose to managed world, C++/CLI may be the best way to go.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: If you have some working C++ code that you want to expose to managed world, C++/CLI may be the best way to go.
Except I can't think of a reason outside of marketing you'd need to do that.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Except I can't think of a reason outside of marketing you'd need to do that.
What if you have a huge native C++ custom library and you have a new application that uses WinForms, Indigo, Web-services etc. and you need yo use the C++ native library from the new application?
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Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: What if you have a huge native C++ custom library and you have a new application that uses WinForms, Indigo, Web-services etc. and you need yo use the C++ native library from the new application?
Well, asuming the library is dynamic, wouldn't you just be able to reference the library ala PInvoke? I mean, I don't see the need to update the lib itself, and thus no real reason to use C++/CLI.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Well, asuming the library is dynamic, wouldn't you just be able to reference the library ala PInvoke?
Only if it's C based. P/Invoke doesn't work with C++ classes. There are ugly workarounds people have attempted (like directly accessing the name mangled exported member functions), but I don't think that works all that well.
Regards,
Nish
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Except I can't think of a reason outside of marketing you'd need to do that.
What do you mean? I had to expose a machine translation[^] library that we have been developing since early 1990's to .NET consumers, and found MC++ to be an excellent tool for the task. Alternatives were to use a COM wrapper or "flatten" the library's hierarchy and provide a plain C interface, but MC++ was the best solution hands down.
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What's the learning curve of it? I mean, is it really worth it? I tend to have most of my libs using C interfaces anyway, so I don't see the need for C++/CLI.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: What's the learning curve of it? I mean, is it really worth it? I tend to have most of my libs using C interfaces anyway, so I don't see the need for C++/CLI.
If you already have a library with a C interface, I would say PInvoke may be easier most of the time (depending on how complex the C interface is). In the case I described, it was worth learning MC++ even just for that one project. The learning curve is not that steep if you already know C++ and .NET.
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Jeremy Falcon
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The Windows RSS Platform could have used it.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Mostly for my book + for some R&D work though. Once my book's done with, I may take up some consulting/contract work for my evenings/weekends.
We are also considering using some C++/CLI at work.
Regards,
Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: We are also considering using some C++/CLI at work
The Code Project is going to write some bits in C++/CLI?
And for the sake of your book I hope those 458 No votes up above are countered with many more Yes votes 
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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