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it's MS. encrusting the UI with barnacles is what they do.
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The ribbon does spring to mind, yes.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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I've always believed it's a stupid name for a search engine. It reminds me of that irritating twerp of an insurance salesman in Groundhog Day. He's the wally that appears when the weatherman, Bill Murray, keeps stepping off the kerb into the icy puddle. An appropriate name then for Microsoft's offering. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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SeptimusEjjog 151576 wrote: It reminds me of that irritating twerp of an insurance salesman in Groundhog Day.
Ex.Act.Ly!
(Or should I say "BING!"?)
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You have to understand their market analysis. Bing is catering to potheads from Hawaii needing directions along the CA coast highway to find the illegal growing fields while hitting Starbucks at various points along the way whilst the passengers look up photo-shopped actors and actresses as inspiration for doing the nasty in the back seat.
At least, that's what I gleaned from that strategy link.
And besides, what else would you expect from a search engine called "Bing?"
Now, sadly, the problem is, everyone else will follow suite. Just look at what's happening with google maps. 
Marc
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I dunno why people make fun of the Bing name.
I mean, what the hell is a "Google"?
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I couldn't agree more with "keep it the same way for several decades". The best example of a successful "simple" website is http://www.craigslist.org[^]. Its easy to find what you're looking for, and there are not distractions all over the page!
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I use Bing so I can get Amazon gift cards.
The weird part about Bing is that on average their search results are as good as Google, sometimes better, but when they are off, they are absurdly off. (Like getting nothing but Chinese results for a search.)
What disturbs me that article is their fascination with Katie Perry.
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I'll wait until it's really here and there have been some tweaks. The preview looks to be adaptive and I hope that it will still be productive (more productive?) when I, like you, search for some help on tricky SQL syntax, documentation on using a class or an obscure error message. I use Bing all the time as I believe if gives superior results to Google, so I'm wary of change (if it ain't broke ...)
I do understand why MS is trying ideas as despite (IMHO) the better search results, Google still tops the charts (remember VHS vs Betamax!)
I agree about flashy tricks and unneccessary chrome (although I like Bing's images), especially as I have a crap connection at home.
Fingers crossed!
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Only with MS[^]
Won't they have an exception filter to excuse their own breeds, like the poor little "Bing"?
Side note: Outlook UX is cool  beats the g stuff for me. If it supports an in-browser chat to interface with my other G mates, I can move to Outlook.com fulltime 
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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I've had the same thing happen with google emails and gmail. It is humorous.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Keep Clam And Proofread
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√(-1) 23 ∑ π...
And it was delicious.
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Surely a project budget war between product teams
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Does anyone ever read these? I know I never do.
There was a new program on the tellybox last night starring Dave Gorman sort of doing standup - ish.
It was OKish.
Quite a large part of it was about terms and conditions and how no-one reads them apart from him, I suspect that he reads them just to try to find mistakes, which was what he managed to find on page 7 of 30 odd for the Boris Bike scheme in London.
This said that a year was 365 days or 364 in a leap year.
This was eventually changed 999 days after the scheme launched and with hundreds of thousands of transactions having taken place each one of them with people agreeing to something that was nonsense. He then revealed that each member of the studio audience had agreed to his terms and conditions when entering the studio, and these agreed his right to have sex with any of them at his discretion for up to a year after the broadcast.
All a little forced perhaps, but do you read such things? Do you write them and have you ever been tempted to slip something in that is a little evil, or even just to check to see if people are paying attention?
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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I saw it - I like DG since I read his Googlewack Adventure.
I liked the rider to his Ts&Cs that a repeat started a new twelve month period!
On Dave, that's going to be pretty much eternal... 
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Yeah I saw this too. Agree with the OKish statement, I sort of like his stand-up routine, it's not amazingly funny but sort of geekish.
In answer to your question, no I have never read them and believe that anybody could wriggle out of them on the grounds that it is common knowledge that they are never read. I think anything important has to be highlighted, you should only read this.
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Most on-line companies would have to breach their privacy policy, if they wanted to enforce their terms and conditions.
The word to remember is "unenforceable" -- if a clause or codicil in one of these terms and conditions statements runs contrary to the law of the land, that word comes into play.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I spent the summer working in a factory while attending college.
I worked the night shift - it was 8 hrs. of mind numbingly boring work.
Part of the requirement of my job was to fill out a little form that was a one paragraph description of the night's activities. The form was technically required by each employee but it was one of those requirements that nobody enforced. However, since I was the new guy I went ahead and filled out the form.
After a month of putting down the same boring paragraph I changed it up a little.
I wrote: Spent the evening trying to keep other employees awake. I failed at doing that.
The low level secretary that read it thought it was pretty funny.
She photo-copied it and passed it around.
Within an hour of me leaving work on that day it was in the plant manager's hands.
By the time I came into work that night there had been several very intense meetings wherein every level of management between myself and the plant manager had been thoroughly reamed. As I came in the door my foreman pulled me aside. He told me that if the men I work with find out that I wrote that thing they'd murder me sometime in the night. He also told me to never fill out another one of those forms again.
Sometimes people do read stuff.
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MehGerbil wrote: He also told me to never fill out another one of those forms again.
I'd call that a success story.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Not evil, but at least one company has slipped in a "People who email us at XYZ email address will get money sent to them in the mail. This offer can be withdrawn at any time." just to see how few people actually read it. To be fair, it was GAIN software and part of an AdServer at that. So I'm not sure the $1000 would have been worth it. And it was only for the first person who sent the email.
I did have to read through what I could understand of the Google Play Developer agreement, which said that I could not use the Google Play to distribute shotgun shells in countries that have been put on the International 'Do not send dangerous things to these places' list. I'm assuming it meant plans to make them, but I'm not completely sure. I'm still trying to figure out how to include ammunition as an attachment.
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I read them for anything involving sensitive data (e.g. credit card numbers), but for most things, no.
Though I do remember finding something in the iTunes ToS a long time ago along the lines of you aren't allowed to use iTunes in a nuclear weapon...
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I only ever read them if I am asked to sign something. if it is online I don't bother on the grounds that, if there was something unreasonable and it got to court I would simply admit to not having read them, and suggest the clause was unusual enough that it should have been brought to my attention.
But it is great fun when the chap in the store wants you to sign a 5 page form to get a couple of hundred dollars interest free, and you start to read it.
When they say "no need to read it, its just a standard form" I ask why then there is a form at all? Has he read it? etc.
If they get arsey I start asking questions. they never know the answers (some make up answers or say things lik e'it probably means..."
i only do it because i am an annoying little prick. But it is funnnnnnnn!
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