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Let's enumerate...
- why Kendo UI sucks today
- why Telerik sucks today
- why HTML 5 sucks today
- why CSS3 sucks today
- why JavaScript sucks today
- why MVC sucks today
- why Visual Studio 2013 sucks today
- ...
- ...
Seriously though, good luck on your new gig, John 
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Seems so KSS when you say it.
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John,
Don't listen to 'em. 
Only the top 2 suck. And its not just one day, its every day. Due to lack of documentation and support.
But have fun... and good luck. 
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Good Luck in the new role!
PVCS ... only thing to remember is that it's a lock out/check in type of source control and if they don't have a "policeman" it can be relatively easy to s***w things up... or at least it used to be so. In previous employs we never quite trusted the version we had to auto-handle multiple branches ... I was the lucky so-and-so who had to act as "policeman" to maintain the integrity of the source repository  However, I quite liked it (PVCS) ... we were able to "automate" quite a few things as it had a command-line interface ... even managed to get Siebel Tools working with it!
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...and don't forget not to hire any other developers to help you so you won't have any problems with multiple branches in PVCS.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Sounds too good, where's the catch? (Telerik doesn't count)
Good luck!
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If there's something better than the telerik package, let me know.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Depends on your needs.
We're using Devexpress, mostly because of their Reporting Tools, and in contrary to Telerik they have a mostly functioning support even if I wouldn't say that their tools are much better.
But if you feel that your Google fu is up to the task you won't actually need much support. It's when you need actual real bugs fixed that it's making a difference. I feel that Devexpress really tries to help you to come up with workarounds, while Teleriks support simply establishes that it is indeed a bug that will be might be fixed in the next release.
They're also having different approaches for how to deal with "not so out of the box" solutions. Devexpress is quite event driven while Telerik is more into settings. And I'm honestly finding events quirky.
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I hope for your sake that the job doesn't involve the VA. Any job security there wouldn't be worth it for me...
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I get to call the shots as far as architecture and design are concerned. I'm gonna go with VS2013/MVC5 and probably the Telerik Dev Craft library (includes grid, Kendo UI and data vis libraries).
Sounds awesome
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The DoD calls them "patients" now? I always thought "enemy combatants" was more accurate.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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But surely PVCS would be saucy. 
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: PVCS for source control
Ouch ! Really ? I'd advise them to change, this is now oldskool tehcnologie. No merge, lockout... Do not branch too much !
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I'm going to see if I can't push them toward something newer.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Maybe you can base it on that nifty patient scheduling software they use at the Phoenix VA Hospital... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Do you know that feeling you get after finishing a long-running task? I got it, just finished the presentation of my final project.
1.5 weeks left on the job.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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Marco Bertschi wrote: 1.5 weeks left on the job
Worse: it's only Monday, so you have plenty of time to be found other work...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Hence my advice. 
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Good timing - go to lunch*
* no, not a SAMICH sandwich, a proper in a bar lunch. Minimum 4 hours. Per day.
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too late, just had a sandwich for lunch 
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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Novice you are.
Weak is the force in you.
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Give him a break: he's Swiss, and they aren't allowed to use the Force by Neutrality Law.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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... and I guess Austria have the farce tied up as well.
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Well they have bearded the lion in his den...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I guess we'll be seeing a lot of you on CP for the next 1.5 weeks eh? 
Have you got another job lined up or will you be using this time to job hunt also?
Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever!
Rich Tennant 5th Wave
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