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In other news, London has been awarded the 2012 Olympics.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: London has been awarded the 2012 Olympics.
Good to know. Can't wait to see it!!!
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AD or BC?
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Delightful, isn't it? I've been using it for about 4 years now...
In other news, a friend of a coworker has been struggling with a math class in college, so I recommended the site to her about a month ago. I got word back last week that she has passed the class, thanks mostly to Wolfram Alpha. It's rare to see a truly useful service anywhere these days, and to have it offered at no cost is a major bonus. Kudos to the development team and their budgetary masters! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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It was good. thanks for sharing 
So much complexity in software comes from trying to make one thing do two things.
Sibeesh
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Translation: A new herd of sheep has been moved to the field next door.
We're not that daft!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Too bad Griff. I hope this problem is solved fast. I just wonder why you are using the phone cable for your internet. Even here in fourth world county we use separate cable for the internet (optical for the chosen few).
Can't you change your internet provider ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Argonia wrote: Can't you change your internet provider pull your own cable?
FTFY
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OriginalGriff wrote: but thier connection is so slow (500m bit / sec!  )
500 milli bits / sec! WTF what can anyone do on a line with half a bit per second?
Just curious, cheers!
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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That is really bad news, OriginalGriff, and I propose that the Lounge, and QA forums, here, be discontinued until you are back with full access.
Without you the blandness on the Lounge would be intolerable; without your "voice of quiet reason" the hostilities may escalate into flame-wars, and I fear that many frustrated students homework-shirkers of C# preparing for examinations the night before the exam, would face disaster possibly leading even to suicide.
cheers, Bill
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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What's all that brown nosing about, Bill?
Just being curious, ya know.
Trying to get OG to let you share a sheep or two, are ya?
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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Being curious is good, Manfred; I suggest you extend your curiosity to exploring the meaning of "irony."
cheers, Bill
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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It didn't sound like that at all.
BTW, wipe your nose.
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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We have already pointed out several times the missing sarcasm icon.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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We might be using the rolleyes  for irony. For sure, it would kill the subtlety, and is definitely not a 100% match.
I like your mental representation of sarcasm, so I second your proposition of the pitchfork.
(I hope you were not being ironical)
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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There is something rotten in your kingdom of Denmark.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Note: the CP editor is not accepting the links I'm pasting in from the Online Etymology Dictionary: so I am including them as plain text.
Hi Rage,
Really, we'd need two distinct icons to distinguish between sarcasm and irony.
Sarcasm comes from the Greek root meaning "cut/tear-off," and it is most often used with a negative intent, as an insult, as making fun-of in a belittling, or hostile, way, etc.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sarcasm
Irony can be much more subtle, and its original meaning from the Greek means the simulating of ignorance, or dissembling; in modern use, it often implies a non-negative intent, imho. It can be a form of rhetoric which implies that it is "tongue-in-cheek," or has a "mixed-message," often in a teasing way. Irony can be used with affection.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=irony
How about a pitchfork with sharpened tines dripping blood for "sarcasm," and something less violent for "irony:" a face with hand over mouth, and the eyes rolling-around ?
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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Steely with less carbon?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Sweet. Now I can catch up to you on points. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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OriginalGriff wrote: the engineer has been forbidden access to the pole by the people in whose field it sits as they "have a dispute running with BT".
In my parts (at least), there's a degree of eminent domain with respect to the utilities (pole based and otherwise).
I guess living in a place named after a huge fish-imposter has some drawbacks.
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At least with respect to maintenance, Eminent Domain is the wrong term. (Although I wouldn't be surprised if Eminent Domain was occasionally used to get right of way in the first place.) What the utility pole owners (ditto for buried lines) have are easements to the property deeds; where in trade for a one time payment to the property owner at the time they bought an indefinite/irrevocable right to build and maintain a line of poles/wires across the property.
Around here this mostly comes up in the news because it includes the right to cut trees close enough to be a hazard to the lines; and under pressure from regulators to improve uptimes (and unions to reduce post-storm overtime) they decide to widen the width of the tree cut around high voltage distribution lines taking property owners off guard who assumed that the easement only ran as wide as the existing clearcut.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Eminent Domain refers to a government seizure of private property for a public purpose, usually accompanied by a payment to the owner of fair market value, that assessment normally being far less than the true market value. It is, essentially, extortion by the government. Easements, on the other hand, can be expressly granted to a utility by the property owner, often in return for a hefty cash payment, or dedicated by a developer as part of a subdivision plat recorded with the local government. In some cases a utility can claim and enforce a "prescriptive" easement, which is based on the premise that an easement is created and assumed granted when a right of way is openly and notoriously occupied for a period of years without any objection from the property owner.
I nearly had to sue for a prescriptive easement when I rebuilt a power line a couple of years ago. Since the line was built 70 years ago, highways and a town were built under the line, without our permission. Technically, we have the right to require those homes to be torn down, and the roads removed, but that way lies madness. A few bureaucrats tried to block my way, but when I pointed out our prior occupation of the ROW, they backed down. I have documents to prove our ROW, but they weren't as formal back then, and these young punks thought they could ignore them with impunity. The mention of a formal suit for prescriptive rights made them back down pronto! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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