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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^]
"We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself.
The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane.
The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact.
Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response.
Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door
The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off.
Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top.
There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers.
The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude.
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Sad.
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What right had he to take along with him 149 innocent others?
Perhaps they should have some kind of (psychometric?) tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight. As a passenger, I'll have no awareness of the pilot's state of mind when I board the aircraft.
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Avijnata wrote: tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight.
Great, that would add another two hours waiting about before each flight. Pilots do have regular medical tests for both physical and mental health, but doing it before each flight would be totally impractical.
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That was just one (impractical) solution 
There may be other ways, wouldn't they?
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They'll probably make it mandatory to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times. At the moment it's not, though some airlines do practice this.
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I was just reading that some airlines keep crowbars or axes outside the cockpit to get in during an emergency. Kind of seems to negate the locking doors to keep terrorists out in that case.
I think - unfortunately - that flight is always going to be a (low) risk activity. If you don't accept the risks then don't fly (I'm guessing that most people don't really consider the risks).
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.
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But then how do you keep three burly terrorists out? I think a solution for one scenario precludes the other.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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It does, but if crow bars and axes can get in, then 340 kgs of meat doing 20 mph is too.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: 20 mph
You might get 5mph.
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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In a nose dive, with 8 minutes to live? I could get 20 mph easy!
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Good point!
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Munchies_Matt wrote: give, surely
What's she got to do with it and just what are you giving her? 
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Findings are preliminary, although the evidence is pointing to suicide.
I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own. Every news channel in the world is broadcasting this.
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Slacker007 wrote: I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own.
Yep ++ 
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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You could make the same statement for about 80% of the posts in the lounge.
modified 26-Mar-15 9:20am.
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except those by Leslie Nielsen (which reduces it to about 60%)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: You could make the same statement for about 80% of the my posts in the lounge.
Fixed that for you. 
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Slacker007 wrote: why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news
Because he wants us to know "the jews" did it.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Because he wants us to know "the jews" did it.
If we've reached the stage of airing wild conspiracy theories, I think it's time we finished our drinks and toddled off home.
Perhaps it was a failed abduction by aliens... 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Before I toddle off, let me say in my own defense that I meant that in a sarcastic way because of the recent flap over his forum signature.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Yes, I'm aware of the flap. That is why I responded in a humourous manner.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Suicide is killing yourself.
What he did was not suicide.
It was a mass murder in which he also died.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Isn't that terrorism?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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