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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: "Scientists" are just as willing to take money to say the "right thing" as anyone else is.
True, to a point. It only takes a couple of bribed politicians to write this law.
But, how many scientists would have to be bribed to make the opposite argument? Thousands upon thousands of them. There isn't just a couple of studies and papers that have come to this conclusion. There are thousands of them that have, and not all looking at the problem from the same point of view or using the same data set.
That's why I don't buy that argument.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: We can't even get straight up reports anymore without wondering if the data's been manipulated.
All data is manipulated in one way or another, to filter out noise. This is the process that most anti-climate change people jump on without bothering to understand the process and exactly why it's done.
Yes, there are those that have gone too far when manipulating data. Those are outnumbered by the thousands of others who didn't.
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Exactly. Funny how data that was available online before 2008 which demonstrated global cooling is no longer available. Something to do with, "if you want funding, the correct answer is..."
Will Rogers never met me.
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Yes - they amended it to say affect in place of effect. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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First, people are stupid everywhere. EVERYWHERE. So don't pull this "only in America" crap.
Second, Rachel Madcow is a liberal media shill, paid to discredit and demean conservative groups, people and ideas, as well as advocate for the myth we all know as "global warming".
I though we here on CodeProject were a bit too intelligent to be caught up in the political agenda of mainstream media hype.
And for the record, this goes for ALL politicians. If you think for a minute that any politician IN ANY COUNTRY has normal citizens' interests at heart, you should probably just shoot yourself in the head right now.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: for the myth we all know as "global warming".
Myth? That's a very narrow view on the things happening on earth, don't you think?
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The myth they are trying to foist off on today's generally clueless population is absurd to those with just a smattering of proper education. Sure, the global climate is affected by humans, but it's affected by EVERYTHING. Data is being manipulated to push an agenda of global depopulation "for the sake of the planet". Don't be fooled.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Data is being manipulated to push an agenda of global depopulation "for the sake of the planet".
Source, please.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Sure, the global climate is affected by humans, but it's affected by EVERYTHING.
So you agree with the theory that humanity affects climate. It is changed by everything indeed, but the process is rolling way faster with our doing. It can't be stopped, yes, but we can change something to slow the progress down eh?
You lost me on the part of depopulation, how would that work? I don't see any laws for that, and also manipulated data, most of that comes from the big player, USA, everybody lost trust in the US. Speculation about manipulated data is on the same level like speculation about true data, no one knows. Since everybody lost confidence in each other, who tells the truth? Is it you, me, anybody else? 
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Screaming that it's not only in America as your opening remark is exactly the kind of thing that convinces most people outside that the opposite is indeed true. Dismissing a verbatim quotation as a liberal media con simply proves it beyond doubt.
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Member 9082365 wrote: Screaming that it's not only in America as your opening remark is exactly the kind of thing that convinces most people outside that the opposite is indeed true.
Only idiots[^]
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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I know that quite a lot of those in the UK list on that website are not true.
There is an oft held belief that if an old law has not been specifically repealed then it is still in effect but that is not true as any newer legislation that would contradict an old law would make the old law ineffective from then on.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: I know that quite a lot of those in the UK list on that website are not true.
Sorry Chris but by applying the logic of Member 90210 we know that when you deny something you are in fact confirming it. 
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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It's a fair cop 
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Name ANY country, and I can cite a reasonably recent news article about stupid shit happening in said country. If you're gonna point and laugh, make sure the next rock thrown doesn't shatter your own glass walls.
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Yup, that's what I do when a pipe bursts in my roof - find somebody else whose gas tank just exploded. Turning the water off and calling a plumber's just for wimps! 
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Second, Rachel Madcow is a liberal media shill
Ever check out her bio?
She went to school, then went to school, then went to school some more. Immediately after that, she brought her wide-ranging experience to the airwaves.
Yeah, she's basically a spokesmodel with a PhD.
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Come on John. Need I point out that politicians are well-known to be paid shills, more so than the media.
Follow the money...
You're going to have to show the money trail on Maddow to prove she's a paid shill.
All we have to do is look at campaign contributions on any politician to prove it there.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: So don't pull this "only in America" crap
I am confused. This is what I stumbled upon from that 80 MPH video below.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Rachel Madcow
I guess that is the news reader (is that news?).
The question is how can this flawed language construct got approval?
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This should probably be in the Soapbox - it's going to fall foul of rule #4 pretty quickly.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yeah, my fault! I'll stop now.
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Quote: How did this even went go through all the process?
FTFY (blatant language related flaw) 
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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[shield]English is not my first language.[/shield]
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Quote: [shield]English is not my first language.[/shield]
Nor mine, but I understand!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Being pedantic, "effect" can actually be used in this context. Strictly speaking, "affect" means "to influence", while, when used as a verb "effect" can mean "to cause." The thing to remember is that "affect" is always a verb, while "effect" can be a noun or verb.
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