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At the time, the firm I worked for was replacing steam winders with electric, almost exclusively for the UK coal industry. I never heard where said firm's other business was, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if gold mines in SA weren't amongst their customers. (Was it Trans.....n, now defunct?)
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Quote: Was it Trans.....n
Yes. I did not realize they are no longer. Sad!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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That's a really great and interesting story.
Thanks for sharing.
I was immediately pulled in on:
Cornelius Henning wrote: my employer bought the technology to control conveyor belts in coal mines
Hmmm... I wonder more about that.
Why did your employer buy that? For what purpose?
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My employer planned to sell the systems to coal mines in South Africa. That country has many massive coal mines. Virtually all their power plants are coal fired, with the exception of one nuclear plant. They also produce a substantial portion of their gasoline from coal.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Cornelius Henning wrote: I can still smell the vinegar
Cornelius Henning wrote: Strange how one's memory works at times!
Indeed. I can still smell the vinegar I used to clean my grandma's windows with many years ago. That stuff stinks so bad.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Quote: That stuff stinks so bad
Maybe it's an acquired taste? It's delicious as a seasoning on some foods.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Cornelius Henning wrote: It's delicious as a seasoning on some foods.
Could be. American food doesn't really use it much. Not to where you can still smell it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I hate vinegar on food, well chips (fries), which is pretty much the only thing it gets added to, aside from actual pickled foods of course.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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You really need to try my mother's German potato salad; warm, vinegary, with a little bit of sour cream on top.
:drool:
Software Zen: delete this;
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Darn you! I had just had my lunch, read your post and now I am hungry again!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Cornelius Henning wrote: little hole-in-the-wall shop
Do they deliver take-away? Post the number please.
What we got here is a failure to communicate
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How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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So I've been using/suggesting AVG free for any number of machines. Comes Oct 15th and they'll become spyware.
Set up my firewall to keep it locked down, except for the occasional update - but they may be when they grab all the private data they've cached - so that seems like a poor option.
Replacing it.
I looked at a number of other on-line items with decent reputations, but, upon reading the TOS I found them to all be similarly busy minding my business.
Any suggestions about thrifty (==free) alternatives (Mostly Win7)?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I have used AVG Free on many of my machines upgrading to paid when I have the cash! But I think Security Essentials seems to be the least evil option. I have heard good things about F-secure...
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For me it's like this:
-Win 7: MSE and malware bytes to scan every now and then(free or paid version)
-Win 8/Win 10: Windows Defender and malware bytes scanning every now and then
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Avast, are there any others?
Avast[^]
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Avast was actually the first 'free' alternative I checked - privacy policy didn't seem to be any better - I'll check again.
Thanks.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I stick with MSE/Windows Defender...never have any problems with viruses.
An essential cleanup tool for your toolbox is 'AutoRuns': https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902[^]
...not just to remove something viral, but there is so much spyware/adware in everything these days that you need to forcefully remove it. It does a pretty good job of highlighting the things your computer is loading that are unusual. Very good for getting rid of browser hijacks as well.
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DaveX86 wrote: I stick with MSE/Windows Defender...never have any problems with viruses.
None, that you're aware of 
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Well that's true of any anti-virus measure, isn't it? I do have evidence that it works in so far as it has detected a few 'attacks' and dealt with them over the past year and if anything's slipped through it hasn't manifested itself. That's really all you can hope for.
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Yeah, I know. Hence the Joke Icon 
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Too bad it can't detect all that new Windows 10 spying 
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I use AVG all over the place and haven't heard anything about it becoming "spyware". Can you provide more details or a reference, please?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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