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Did you try turning it off...and then on again?
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Chris said he was dealing with the MacOS, not Windows! 
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Just got off the phone with my brother-in-law. His 12 day old Windows 10 laptop is already infested with a virus that won't let it boot-up or shutdown properly.
Thanks, but no thanks. 
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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You need to tell him not to open the attachments sent from anyone he does not know (I was going to mention some of the senders I get but there are 53 of them this morning)!!!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: You need to tell him...
No. No I don't. Just like I don't need to tell Chris how to operate his computers.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Somebody does need to tell him, apparently. This has nothing to do with Windows.
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Hey Chris,
Trust not the makers of the i's & w's of this world.
No good ever comes of having Personal and OS data on the same drive partition. I'd respectfully and happily advise the use of a crude weapon called format and clean install for new setups.
Niceties like Timemachine or Backup and Restore do not really entice the wary. The i is a good OS but I'd rather place my data on a separate drive partition in zip/rar/7Z. Granted, it takes space but that trusty format is dependable, restorable and reliable at being recovered, iff not thoroughly erased. I'd go so far as to say all your user docs and libraries should be routed to the other drive partition as soon as the OS setup is complete.
I've had the hard experience with the i's, w's, u's and the s's of Os's. In fact, OS makers are not really custodians of data as much as of the profits of hardware makers. The OS is just really an excuse to get in. Anything they say protects your data in non-open formats, I take with a pinch of salt. So might any one with the bitter experience of loosing gobs of personal and organization memories. No one should have to face that, ever.
Wish you the very best mate, may you be up and running with the trusty mac in no time at all.
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<Insert sarcastic comment of choice here>
I used to work as a network technician before going fulltime programming. It was BYOD that made me change ships fully.
And I'm seeing most of the Apple commercials as deep irony.
"It just works" - Until you're not following user case 1A, when it suddenly doesn't just work. There's a reason most people with Macs are using Bootcamp for actual work.
And don't get me started on TimeMachine, it works perfectly fine, until you need it. It's flakier than iTunes.
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"It just works" - Until you're not following user case 1A, when it suddenly doesn't just work.
Exactly. My use case is running the stuff on a Virtual Machine for development purposes, like on a real developer machine.
It's taken me more than 6 months to get it to work, and only then by downloading a pirated version of MacOSX. The OS I paid good money for, just mysteriously doesn't work.
Windows is a wet dream by comparison .
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Chris Maunder wrote: I used to dread setting up Windows machines and love setting up Macs - and now it's totally opposite.
What happens is all the code monkeys bloat one place to failure... and the other rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure.
So what happens is all the code monkeys bloat the one place to failure... while the other side rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure.
Then what happens is all the code monkeys bloat the one place to failure... while the other side rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure.
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I did downloaded an update on OSX (no, not the new el capitan): it took about 10 HOURS !!! to download 1.3 gig.
It was so slow I first thought something was wrong with my internet connection, so I downloaded a full edition of SQL Server from MSDN: that took me about 15 minutes.
So I started looking around the internet what could be wrong and to my surprise most fan-boys said it was normal.
Anyway, I wondered: do you use your mac for windows development? And if so, do you use it in a dual boot setup, or with parallels desktop?
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Never had the 10-hour experience before, so not sure how 'normal' it is. When a new OS releases, it can be slow if you try to get it on release day, but not 10 hours slow. At least, not in my experience.
The latest XCode was a more than 3GB download, and only took about 15 minutes. So, no, I don't really think that is 'normal'.
Yes, dual boot, and with parallels desktop.
Mainly got a Mac because I am now doing iOS development, but still am a .NET programmer.
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke!
My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Same here, only I configured it as a dual boot setup.
Are you using visual studio in parallels desktop and if so, are you happy with it?
I'm considering using parallels desktop for all my .NET development, but i'm not sure about the experience during development.
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Both at work and home, I have parallels with Visual Studio. No trouble, has been running great for more than 2 years now. I did have to re-program some of the keyboard shortcuts at work, I use ReSharper and Mac keyboards don't have an 'Insert' key, which is used a lot with ReSharper. But, that's only a minor issue. At home I bought an external keyboard that does have an Insert key.
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke!
My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Yeah - slow downloads are crazy. Don't Apple have an iCloud thingy?
I use my Macbook Air and iMac with Bootcamp. The iMac is so-so but the Macbook Air (with it's awesome SSD) is brilliant. Very very happy with it.
(However, the Surface Pro 4 seems to be a way, way better machine. can't wait!)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I bought a MacBook Pro and then I fixed the only thing that was wrong with it. I installed Windows OS.
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Did you have enough mouse buttons? What about function keys?
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The mouse on the Macbook is identical to a Windows mouse (except right click is top click). The Function keys are the same as well. All your really missing is the windows key and print screen which you can perform with a key combination or the snippet tool.
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What about the middle mouse button? On a conventional laptop, one can "enumlate3buttons", which allows you to press the middle mouse button on a conventional laptop by pressing both buttons together - not ideal, but OK in a pinch (ie lack of a real mouse). From what you describe, it looks like I'd need to play a game of "twister" on the mouse pad in order to do a middle-mouse drag operation, which I do often enough for it to get annoying.
The issue about function keys is that on a typical Mac laptop in my experience, you have to press a "fn" modifier key to access them, which sort of defeats their purpose as general programmable keys.
Not sure why you'd need a windows key. The only operating system I found a use for that key is Windows 8, and only then to pull up the start menu. That mode of operation was made obsolete by Windows 8.1 and now Windows 10.
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After nearly 100 years at the bottom of the north Atlantic divers have found that the Titanic's pool is still full.
Amazing
New version: WinHeist Version When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page. Unknown
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Sure, but all the toilets are overflowing.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: all the toilets are overflowing.
Don't be so negative. 
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You may note that I said nothing about the poop deck. 
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Seeing the positive in every situation is a fantastic ability. 
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I didn't know Atlantic divers lived that long ... and underwater too!
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