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I already said it myself
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Indeed you did, only in different words.
I personally prefer the metal folding chair. 
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DMCA violations in the US are a criminal law matter; I may not like that; I may protest that, but, it is ... the law. There have been, and there are now, serious legal challenges in the US Courts to DMCA [^].
As for extradition, talk to Assange about that.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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How many successful prosecutions have they had applying this Act? Many CP articles would seem to be abetting a breach of this law.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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BillWoodruff wrote: talk to Assange about that
Except that the US legal/copyright system seems to be acting like a rogue bull I'd vote to let the US extradite him, we certainly don't want him back!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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BillWoodruff wrote: DMCA violations in the US are a criminal law matter
But sexually assaulting children isn't.
Hmm. Could there possibly be a connection between the two?
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Copyright laws are the worst around.
Somehow the creative industry is very uncreative in marketing their products and making money from it (or at least not enough, so they think) so they simply restrict usage, assume everyone is a pirate, and make you pay even if you don't use their product (like when you buy a USB storage device or a disc writer). I guess they have a big lobby to get such idiotic laws to pass.
Then they make it worth your while to download movies because you don't have to watch their anti-piracy propaganda that comes with the legit disc.
I really hate BUMA/STEMRA, Brein, and all these other money grabbing morons. In the end they get the money that copyright owners miss out of.
This says it all I think (sorry, Dutchies only).[^] 
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Sander Rossel wrote: the creative industry is very uncreative in marketing their products and making money from it
That's exactly the point.
They spend gazillions on poor marketing, and right now are spending millions of taxpayers' money on their little spat, but they're perfectly happy to rake in the money that "piracy" gives them by marketing their garbage better than they ever could.
Case in point: a show called "Braindead" has become remarkably popular in Asia, even though not a penny has been spent distributing it. The previously unknown (in Asia) stars and makers of the show are now stars to a market more than three times the population of the US, and Asia will lap up anything involving them.
Do they:
a. Work with this, to push more of their material through similar channels, and find ways to monetise it quicker?
b. Come up with wild claims and demands for ridiculous amounts of money?
(Note that a. would be the smart move, and b. the moronic one.)
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Mark_Wallace wrote: (Note that a. would be the smart move, and b. the moronic one.)
You clearly don't work in the copyright industry then 
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Gah, I hate copyright laws. All I want is for a thousand people to make a multi-million pound movie and for me to watch it for free, is that too much to ask? I mean, you work for free, right?, so why shouldn't people in the entertainment industry? I'm sure, like the rest of us, when you have finished coding your project you usually don't get paid for the work you have done because someone has simply copied and distribute it themselves.
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Bah bring logic and common sense to an emotional argument/rant tcha some people!
It is never black and white, however I get really annoyed when I can't even pay for content I want watch because I don't live in the US/UK. And when I get home to Oz I'm expected to pay 30% more than the rest of the planet.
They want to charge what they can then they can't bitch when their ridiculous rules are circumvented.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I'm expected to pay 30% more than the rest of the planet
You think a 30% markup is bad for content released outside it's home region is bad, you should read up on the pink tax.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote: you should read up on the pink tax
Apple relies on the same feminine "Oh, look at me, I'm pretty because I overpaid for this!" response.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: "Oh, look at me, I'm pretty because I overpaid for this!"
To quote Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate
"Vanity, my favorite sin."
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Do you hear a whooshing sound?
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If you actually read ALL the history on this, then you will know that they have been trying to get this guy for some time, and other like him - too many loopholes to prevent success in evasion, etc.
Frankly, I am glad they got him - at any cost. I am more bothered by the fact that this bothers you. --> Scratching my head in complete confusement. 
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Slacker007 wrote: If you actually read ALL the history on this, then you will know that they have been trying to get this guy for some time
Why?
Give me a reason that actually makes both financial and moral sense.
I've spent hours reading up on this stuff, today, and all I can see is greedy morons trying to get money by mistreating people, rather than by working with people/for people.
They actually sued one "pirate" for more than the GDP of the entire world, and made a judge's life a misery after he dared to say (in his own court) that that was a stupid amount.
These greedy morons are making a mockery of the law. They're worse than gangsters, and have nothing whatsoever to do with genuine claims of copyright infringement or plagiarism.
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My take is that the hollywood elite and producers don't like it when someone is making money for nothing on their products/merchandise, and I kind of agree with them on this. Pirating is illegal; you can't really say it is not.
So, he has to be punished, right? I agree that some of this is stupid, it is, but ultimately you can't pirate stuff that is not yours to sell.
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Slacker007 wrote: you can't pirate stuff that is not yours to sell
Umm, yes you can. You just need to change your name to Google.
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Slacker007 wrote: My take is that the hollywood elite and producers don't like it when someone is making money for nothing on their products/merchandise, and I kind of agree with them on this.
The trouble is that that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about morons who can't even make good movies, TV, or music are acting like they own the world, and people/governments are letting them get away with it. The Law is being perverted and abused far more by the morons than by the pirates. The cost to the taxpayer of piracy is 0, but taxpayers all over the world are paying millions upon millions to sponsor the morons' witch hunts.
These perversions of the law do not benefit the people, and they do not help individuals or small companies to retain their intellectual property; they just give more power to the morons.
Handling copyright issues was always very simple: if someone rips off your work, you get a lawyer and sue.
Nowadays, if a corporation rips off your work, you have to just let them keep it -- there's no way you'll get them to cough up, because you have to pay for everything yourself, and they've got way deeper pockets (which are being refilled with money that rightfully belongs to you).
But if someone sort-of-but-not-really rips off a corporation (in a way that makes the corporation more money, by the way), the corporation can persecute them to their heart's content, because the taxpayers -- i.e. you and I -- pay for it.
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I have no issue with major corporations going after pirates or thieves. I am a capitalist, so I have no problem with corporations making money off of bad movies and films, etc - it's relative and opinionated.
The law is the law, if you steal you get punished, at least that is the way should be.
Now, you are so upset about this, that if I didn't know better, I would think you were a pro-pirate supporter. Just saying... 
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Are you sure I'm not a terr'rist? A paedophile? A rapist? A mass-murderer?
Any more mindless accusations you'd like to throw my way, in the typical, close-minded "If you don't agree with me 100%, you shouldn't be allowed to live!" fashion?
The law is not to be abused by Anyone, not even those whom you wish you could be.
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Ah, the joys of the interwebs...
In cyberspace, no-one can hear you chuckle...
Maybe I've spent too much time dealing with trolls; I get too much of a kick out of "playing into their hands".
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If the wind turns we'll have to evacuate. 
<edil>
The fire is under control since eight o'clock.
Four firefighters are at the hospital.
Save a thought for those real heroes of our society!
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modified 24-Jul-16 18:26pm.
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