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better than paid for US war
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As long as companies can pit government against government, they win. This works on all levels; local, provincial, and national.
Alas, it makes you wonder if somebody is using international corporate taxes as yet another ploy for a single-currency world. Sigh.
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Foothill wrote: yet another ploy for a single-currency world.
if only that were the goal.
It's a no-currency world their working towards.
That's unbelievably scary.
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If it's the no-currency world of Star Trek where everything is in such great abundance that you are no longer living for subsistence and you are free to pursue your dreams, I would be okay with that. I don't think that's the case though.
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Which was only brought about because of the Replicator that could produce for you anything you wanted, basically for free.
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Foothill wrote: Alas, it makes you wonder if somebody is using international corporate taxes as yet another ploy for a single-currency world. Sigh.
Illuminati anyone?
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I'm confused. My last iPhone cost null and my next iPhone will also cost null. But null != null. Is null < null or is null > null?
OriginalGriff wrote: 0.005% tax rate in 2014? I'd love that for me!
Do you have 28 children you can write off as dependents? 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Quote: Beyond the obvious targeting of Apple, the most profound and harmful effect of this ruling will be on investment and job creation in Europe. Using the Commission’s theory, every company in Ireland and across Europe is suddenly at risk of being subjected to taxes under laws that never existed.
The questions to be answered are (1) is Ireland a sovereign nation or not? (2) if a contract is made with a sovereign nation, can others decide they don't like it and change it? (3) and finally, who'd be stupid enough to set up business anywhere in the EU if anything can happen at any time.
Are these nations or vassal states? If the later, shouldn't they drop their UN membership in favor of a single one representing the all (like the US) ?
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All of which is evidence of what I was saying in the other thread about that "slogan": gov't is force. The EU is obviously a gov't big enough to take everything you've got and make-up non-existent retroactive "rules" to so justify its actions.
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And they complained when Erdogan tried to introduce death penalty in a similar way. Maybe EU and Turkey are made for each other after all.
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Anything * the zero I have spent on Apple products is still 0. 
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No one queuing for it in a while
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Many large companies are able to do that and not only in ireland... 
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Quote: Ireland enabled the company to pay substantially less
Hardly Apple's fault then, it's the tax authorities not doing their job properly. They know the company is there so why are they not making it pay up?
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Wow, what BS. Apple had smart lawyers, they were looking at ways to avoid paying US taxes, and that money should be in the coffers of the US gov't, and those 6000 people should be US employees. 
Marc
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"Cook described the Commission's decision as "unprecedented," adding that it will have a "profound and harmful effect" on investment and jobs in Europe"
Sure will.
Those 14 milliard in taxes will take care of a lot of salaries for a lot of people, and a lot of contracts for all the infrastructure-y stuff that governments do.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It is perfectly ok that Irish govmnt has a sole right to agree whatever tax rate for any special company if it is ok for both parties.
What is not ok is that money that Apple's company in Ireland earns, come from all over the European countries (common market) by selling Iphones, Ipads, iTunes, and iWhatever, but all other Europeans, unlike Irishmen, did not agree with Apple to avoid tax payment based on services/product sold on common European market.
Same problem is facing Australia, also with Apple and few others that have legal subsidies operating from Singaphur, but selling to Australian market. Singaphur, even with lower or no tax charges than Australia, at least has the equal tax benefits for all companies settled there, not only Apple.
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Should CP members, at least veterans, vet their rants a bit. www.snopes.com[^] has been around a long while. Most of them know it.
So posting vile/misleading information - is it just that they don't want to lose their comfort food "facts" ? Is it that hard to occasionally fact check claims?
Everyone will blurt out a post on occasion - but when it's regular and continuous fodder, you begin to wonder not only about their sources, but about them.
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Hmmm.... I recall that a few weeks back I read an article showing that Snopes itself showed bias, but I can't remember what the bias was on. So, going to Snopes is not always a 'definitive source'.
As far as ranting? Many of the posts from 'veterans' show THEIR bias... one way or the other.
Take it for what it's worth... I've largely stopped replying to them in their 'rants' because it is only throwing fuel on the fire.
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Tim Carmichael wrote: I recall that a few weeks back I read an article showing that Snopes itself showed bias, but I can't remember what the bias was on
Maybe even more importantly, where did you read the article. Could it possibly be someone who's lies got called out and thus decides that the one that exposed their lie must be biased?
There's a lot of that, by the way, going on in the US political scene. A real lot.
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There's innuendo there, but that clearly underlines and embraces my original point:
Accuse and Expose are not the same - or - once upon a time they weren't.
The current mentality (do you share it): if one is accused and there is no evidence then it must be a coverup.
If you cannot see the basic stupidity in those accepting that (and millions apparently do with) than I offer you my sympathy.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: if one is accused and there is no evidence because it was covertly destroyed then it must be a coverup.
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You do see the recursion in your argument, don't you?
Evidence cannot be found so it must have been destroyed.
And if investigators don't find child pornography on you PC - what does that imply about you?
On another topic, you tag-line. At first the give/take government things seems logical. It totally fails to take into account that humans are a communal/gestalt species. Think about this next time you're on a federally built interstate highway.
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Of course, except when it was admitted to having been destroyed.
W∴ Balboos wrote: And if investigators don't find child pornography on you PC - what does that imply about you?
Yeah, so when did you stop beating your wife?
W∴ Balboos wrote: tag-line
It is a truism whatever you say. The gov't has nothing except what it takes from the populace.
W∴ Balboos wrote: humans are a communal
True and one in which such community is formed by free choice and free will. Not force. Gov't is force.
W∴ Balboos wrote: federally built interstate highway
Yes, and the gov't can forbid you to travel it anytime they want to.
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