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Totally agreed with you.
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You aren't expected to learn independently until grad school.
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Maybe its time to add "Job Boards" here.
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Hmm. I thought we have one 
Bryian Tan
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I am a junior developer and i am looking for job.
Any tiny help will be more appreciated sir.
Thanks & Regards,
Aditya Kumar
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Hi I am from India and looking for a job. Can you send your mail id for further details??.
Thanks.
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In sweat shops in Mumbai.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Businesses don't have time, finance or resources to train .net developers any more as they're all curtting costs, and Universities seem to teach Java, PHP and Javascript as it's much cheaper to set up labs with Linux than Windows [although with .net core that might change, though I wouldn't bank on it].
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I agreed. If an employer willing to give you opportunity to learn in their environment , that awesome. Else you have to setup lab and study and still need to get a job to gain real world experience
Bryian Tan
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If you can't find them, you have to make them...
(or look somewhere other than jobs websites - for example any local meetup groups or indeed GitHub?)
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Yeah, have to look outside the circle
Bryian Tan
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Agree 100%! There are a lot of youngsters out there who haven't really considered programming or who think they've missed the boat..
We should look to train our local young people before taking the easy (and cheaper - at least in the short term) option and hiring from elsewhere (be it another city, region or country).
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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but where are they?
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Probably doing part-time work in shops, bars, restaurants or menial office work.
I worked in electronics for about 14 years before moving into software. I'd been writing software all the time, and when I heard an advert on the local radio about a recruitment event for software developers I decided to go along. I don't have a degree, but I took some of my code along with me and was the only person to get offered a job that day.
The rest is history (so far).. 
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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You can find them remotely. I for one
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I could be one - I'm no junior developer but .NET is almost unexplored land for me, as I only made a C# plugin for VisualStudio (it shows areas of memory as 8 or 16 bit grayscale images, gamma-contrast correction, zoom, painting of arrays indicating colums-rows or rows-column, saving the buffer) and a C++/CLI interface to load a C++ DLL in a C# project (the DLL is loadable both from native and from .NET).
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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That what I felt like sometime, never know enough to hang out/ compete with other smart professional out there
Bryian Tan
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Bryian Tan wrote: Where to find them?
McDonalds! You want fries with that? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Lol. And drinks too
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It's been my experience (since I didn't start out in programming school) that the main to job qualifications are:
1) A minimum of 15 years experience in (fill in)
2) A maximum age of 25 years old.
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I remember seeing a couple of job listings asking for recent college graduates with 6 or more years of experience...go figure.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Bryian Tan wrote: So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them?
Tinder 
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Hi Bryian,I am a junior software.Net developer i know this is not the right place but yes we exist so if you want some help from me surely I can help you out.
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