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I am surprised at that. It shows that things are gummed up where you are. Your articles are a good indication of your ability and I can't imagine why you are out of work. I would not despair.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I agreed sometime the job description is too ambitious for a junior position. And that turn them away. For my case, I might not looking at the right place.
Bryian Tan
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I remember back in 2005 seeing an ad for an experienced dot net developer with 5, that's right, 5 years experience.
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I remember an email this week from an agent looking for a senior .NET developer with 3+ years experience.
To be fair I've also worked with senior developers with less ability than juniors/graduates. Titles mean far less than client requirements and day rate/salary. Also, years don't necessarily indicate experience.
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The gist of my comment was that dot net officially was launched in 2001, but the ad (placed in 2005) was looking for 5 years experience. Totally unrealistic.
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Sorry, totally misread your comment. Yeah true.
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WinnipegCodeMonkey wrote: The gist of my comment was that dot net officially was launched in 2001, but the ad (placed in 2005) was looking for 5 years experience. Totally unrealistic.
I was to say something similar but even worse, in 2005 as well, they were looking for someone with 10 years experience in .NET, I laughed so much, governments, they know nothing 
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It would have been possible for someone in 2005 to have had five years experience with .NET.
You are forgetting that Microsoft had a beta program for .NET.
I was a part of it, and have a vivid memory of being in Redmond, for a week in 1999 for a working session with Microsoft.
One of the reasons it is vivid, is because of one session beginning at 4PM where the Microsoft team comes in in flannel shirts and blue jeans carrying a large tub filled with ice & beer.
Then we got an impromptu session by the guy who wrote ASP.NET. It was pretty amazing watching him break the cardinal rule of presentations by slinging code in Notepad & not ever having anything break.
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doesn't it depend in what you're looking for Bryian ? 'junior .net developer' could mean 'reads c# and makes coffee' for example - I see a lot of jobs advertised for 'full stack' developers - I don't have ASP.Net experience so that rules me out - 'kids' today seem more interested in JavaScript frameworks - maybe they get a quicker 'hit' ie see something happening by using them - I've never been one for quick gratification
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: doesn't it depend in what you're looking for Bryian ? 'junior .net developer' could mean 'reads c# and makes coffee' for example - I see a lot of jobs advertised for 'full stack' developers - I don't have ASP.Net experience so that rules me out - 'kids' today seem more interested in JavaScript frameworks - maybe they get a quicker 'hit' ie see something happening by using them - I've never been one for quick gratification
Plus you're a bloody Kiwi.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I fail to see the relevance of my nationality, but sure, if that's all you've got, take a swipe at me on that basis
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: I fail to see the relevance of my nationality, but sure, if that's all you've got, take a swipe at me on that basis
Jesus Garth, the skin got a bit thin or what? Thought a bit shite flinging between the Kiwis and the Aussies was a given.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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sorry, not in the mood - had a rough time in an interview before Xmas (was set up for a fall, and fell), still smarting from things - hence Im pushing a 'PC' line, (boring though that is)
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: sorry, not in the mood - had a rough time in an interview before Xmas (was set up for a fall, and fell), still smarting from things - hence Im pushing a 'PC' line, (boring though that is)
Not a problem, sh*tty moods when appropriate. Hope things improve.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Sorry to hear that. Hope thing get better the next time. Sometime I felt like interview is another opportunity to discover new thing that you didn't know, learn how people ask question. If you don't get the job that fine, at least you get some idea what the employers are looking for. Go back do some study/ homework, be prepared and try another time.
Bryian Tan
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Yes, that's unforgivable.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yes, that's unforgivable.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Lol, make coffee. That would be nice too yes, kids are smart nowadays and sometimes is tough to find the good one.
Bryian Tan
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You mean making coffee isn't just about throwing a stone in a random direction and going to whichever starbucks it lands on? 
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Bryian Tan wrote: where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out?
Q & A
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
modified 14-Feb-17 4:33am.
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That is not true of the fresh graduates I've come across (In my part of the world graduate means having been to University or Technical College). Unfortunately the problem in Q&A is mostly lack of quality training and formal education. In fact in Q&A there are countless examples of people actually claiming to be senior developers asking absolutely trivial questions.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 14-Feb-17 0:56am.
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 The important thing college doesn't teach you - how to learn for yourself.
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Totally agreed with you.
Bryian Tan
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