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It did happen to me - and almost everyone else who tried it for the first time. After about 30 seconds I had successfully flipped it on the back and 'landed' it on the rotor.
If you ever want to try, come right over and we will spend some hours on the simulator before we ever try anything out on the nfield.
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Just curious: do you enjoy the skill required to fly those?
Just asking coz these days drones (the hobbyist multi-prop ones, not those that launch RPG's) they are putting out today have got all sorts of idiot proofing auto stabilisation built in.
(Still not 100% idiot proof though: they don't self-avoid power lines, moderate to fast moving terrestrial vehicles and dogs that want to play frisbie.)
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Lopatir wrote: Still not 100% idiot proof though
Nope. There's always the 100% idiots! (And sometimes I wonder if that percentage doesn't break the barrier as well)
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"The problem is that the universe keeps coming up with better idiots"...
Or words to that effect anyway. I can never get the exact quote quite right.
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Lopatir wrote: Just curious: do you enjoy the skill required to fly those?
Yes, just as I prefer manual transmission in a car. This way the learning never ends and there are always new goals to achieve. Just pressing a button and let a microcontroller have all the fun is boring. 
Lopatir wrote: orts of idiot proofing auto stabilisation built in
There you have it. I prefer to spend a few bucks to repair and a months ration of adrenaline before I would ever voluntarily join that club of meek and timid souls.
Lopatir wrote: (Still not 100% idiot proof though: they don't self-avoid power lines, moderate to fast moving terrestrial vehicles and dogs that want to play frisbie.)
No, they don't and that's why I think that giving unskilled people the illusion of control over a fairly dangerous object. The bigger helicopters can easily kill someone. It already has happened.
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That's a beautiful machine! 500 is a great size. I have a 450 that I learned on.
I've been flying planes since the 80's, then got into helicopters about 8 years ago - because someone told me it was one of the top 3 hardest of all hobbies.
The thrill of getting it in the air in my driveway after months of work was unreal.
Now we are flying quads and hexicopters. I have an HD camera on my quad that takes some stunning photos. And a FPV camera on the hex that sends realtime video back to my VR goggles.
The best part about helis and drones is that you can fly anywhere. I can just walk into my backyard and fly for 15 minutes, then go on to something else. No need to pack up and drive to a field or club and go through all the trouble to fly a plane.
So what are you using for radios? Futaba? Graupner?
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Basildane wrote: That's a beautiful machine! 500 is a great size. I have a 450 that I learned on.
450s are great for learning. The best compromise between price, size and power. I have three T-Rex 450 (plus a cheap clone that I adopted from someone who gave up), my old Blade 450 3D and a 10 year old veteran T-Rex 550E that I also saved from being scrapped.
Basildane wrote: Now we are flying quads and hexicopters.
That's a totally different flying principle. They are so ugly that the earth repells them.
Basildane wrote: And a FPV camera on the hex that sends realtime video back to my VR goggles.
I have a very cheap camera under the T-rex 550 and made two flying videos on Youtube with it. VR would be fun, but then I would also like to have telemetry and a HUD.
Basildane wrote: The best part about helis and drones is that you can fly anywhere. I can just walk into my backyard and fly for 15 minutes, then go on to something else. No need to pack up and drive to a field or club and go through all the trouble to fly a plane.
Just look for 'T-Rex vs unsuspecting cows' on Youtube. . And I would not have much room for planes in my little appartment.
Basildane wrote: So what are you using for radios? Futaba? Graupner?
First I used a Spektrum DX6, which came with the Blade 450. Then I had some trouble with the sticks. I had to open up and clean the potentiometers several times or risk losing control in flight. Since then I use a Spektrum DX8 which is of much better quality.
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From Marc Clifton's post, below The Lounge[^], I need to mention that we are still awaiting our Nigerian based concurrency.
And, of course, the appropriate account access to make large deposits for any existing currency of any type you may wish.
Check Your Email! Don't be the last one into the pool!
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Haven't you heard? 
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![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) me!
Paradise Lost!
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phht, apparently the director of a huge bank in Yemen passed away without leaving a will and apparently I'm the most eligible relative to receive his inheritance worth millions.
The funds are intestate with some government department and some lawyers so all they needed was a few thousand US dollars to process the paperwork - was way worth it for the millions I'll get.
Any day now ...
Thinking this weekend I'll trash this cobbled up windows machine and order a proper Mac Pro.
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What does "Mining Bitcoins" mean? I'm too old for this kind of sh*t.
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Dang! It would have been the perfect opportunity to tell him to get himself a helmet with a lamp and a pick and have him digging a little!
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I thought mining was a fat guy sitting in a loader complaining about a 23 year old avaricious kid that keeps on owning him, that or a hairy dutchman with a perfect command of swear words.
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Thanks! I still don't understand most of it. Which means: Stay away!
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It's like mining for nose gold, but more prone to cave-ins.
from google search: Quote: Bitcoin mining is the process by which transactions are verified and added to the public ledger, known as the block chain, and also the means through which new bitcoin are released. ... The mining process involves compiling recent transactions into blocks and trying to solve a computationally difficult puzzle.
To be honest, this definition needs further mining to get at its meaning.  
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It's very easy: They want to do a lot of transactions and need a lot of computer power to get all this processed. If you dedicate a computer to do some processing for them, you are awarded bitcoins for the work you did for them.
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Are you then given the title "miner"?
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I'm with you, if it ain't green and it ain't in my hand then I don't want to know about it.
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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My version of it?
It's the act of wasting power on computations that are for the most part completely useless, and in the unlikely event you do get a bitcoin out of it, you still won't be able to trade it in for anything of tangible value, no matter what its current monetary value is reported to be.
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Clear as mud! Thanks, I'm staying far, far away. 
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You and me both. I still don't feel like I've missed out on anything.
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Quote: I still don't feel like I've missed out on anything.
I suspect you missed out on a dandy (where did that come from? ) opportunity to lose some money!
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