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Money payment (non-bitcoin) has to go through banks. with all the transaction records available, it is hard to believe that attackers do not get caught.
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They'll go back to what they were using before BitCoin.
Western Union.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Western Union.
Money order? The attackers have to give out their mailing address.
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Haven't deal with many Nigerian princes, have you? 
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Have not. But I do have a number of emails asking me to claim huge amount of money left by my deceased great great aunt. Need to act quickly.
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Well, if bitcoins weren't worth anything, the attacks would still continue, the method has shown to be profitable. Instead they would demand whatever next hard to track currency is available... like USD sent to a compromised foreign account.
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RJOberg wrote: .. like USD sent to a compromised foreign account.
I sometimes wonder how could they not get caught since all transactions go through banks including the foreign account unless that foreign country supports the attackers.
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No. Bitcoin is just easier than other ways of payment. Attackers do it because they can, not because method of payment is convenient. There are pre-paid Visa, iTunes cards and several other methods that can and were used before. Mere fact that something CAN be used in malicious way doesn't mean it should be banned... Unless you want to ban all men for example 
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Only a bit, because the criminals want to do there business. 
If the business is easy and sucessful always a lot of criminals are jumping on the train.
I guess the bitcoin bubble will end like the "dutch tulip mania" with lost homes and destroyed families. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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KarstenK wrote: I guess the bitcoin bubble will end like the "dutch tulip mania" with lost homes and destroyed families.
Hope you are right about bitcoin bubble. It at least eliminates a convenient payment for attackers.
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If people gave up sex, we wouldn't have over-population problems 
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
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Do not forget tube baby or Dolly the Sheep.
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This![^] Sparkling and new, all aluminium and carbon fiber and unassembled. I only took the 50 page assembly instructions out of the box.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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That's gonna be two really fun minutes - until you crash it and are left with a $500 pile of plastic waste... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Why did you tell me that? I have been flying 200 - 300 hours with my old T-Rex 550E and had no crashes at all. Now that I know that these models can crash...
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Dunno - probably because that's what would have happened to me! 
Sorry! 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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It did happen to me - and almost everyone else who tried it for the first time. After about 30 seconds I had successfully flipped it on the back and 'landed' it on the rotor.
If you ever want to try, come right over and we will spend some hours on the simulator before we ever try anything out on the nfield.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Just curious: do you enjoy the skill required to fly those?
Just asking coz these days drones (the hobbyist multi-prop ones, not those that launch RPG's) they are putting out today have got all sorts of idiot proofing auto stabilisation built in.
(Still not 100% idiot proof though: they don't self-avoid power lines, moderate to fast moving terrestrial vehicles and dogs that want to play frisbie.)
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Lopatir wrote: Still not 100% idiot proof though
Nope. There's always the 100% idiots! (And sometimes I wonder if that percentage doesn't break the barrier as well)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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"The problem is that the universe keeps coming up with better idiots"...
Or words to that effect anyway. I can never get the exact quote quite right.
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Lopatir wrote: Just curious: do you enjoy the skill required to fly those?
Yes, just as I prefer manual transmission in a car. This way the learning never ends and there are always new goals to achieve. Just pressing a button and let a microcontroller have all the fun is boring.
Lopatir wrote: orts of idiot proofing auto stabilisation built in
There you have it. I prefer to spend a few bucks to repair and a months ration of adrenaline before I would ever voluntarily join that club of meek and timid souls.
Lopatir wrote: (Still not 100% idiot proof though: they don't self-avoid power lines, moderate to fast moving terrestrial vehicles and dogs that want to play frisbie.)
No, they don't and that's why I think that giving unskilled people the illusion of control over a fairly dangerous object. The bigger helicopters can easily kill someone. It already has happened.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
modified 8-Dec-17 9:00am.
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That's a beautiful machine! 500 is a great size. I have a 450 that I learned on.
I've been flying planes since the 80's, then got into helicopters about 8 years ago - because someone told me it was one of the top 3 hardest of all hobbies.
The thrill of getting it in the air in my driveway after months of work was unreal.
Now we are flying quads and hexicopters. I have an HD camera on my quad that takes some stunning photos. And a FPV camera on the hex that sends realtime video back to my VR goggles.
The best part about helis and drones is that you can fly anywhere. I can just walk into my backyard and fly for 15 minutes, then go on to something else. No need to pack up and drive to a field or club and go through all the trouble to fly a plane.
So what are you using for radios? Futaba? Graupner?
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Basildane wrote: That's a beautiful machine! 500 is a great size. I have a 450 that I learned on.
450s are great for learning. The best compromise between price, size and power. I have three T-Rex 450 (plus a cheap clone that I adopted from someone who gave up), my old Blade 450 3D and a 10 year old veteran T-Rex 550E that I also saved from being scrapped.
Basildane wrote: Now we are flying quads and hexicopters.
That's a totally different flying principle. They are so ugly that the earth repells them.
Basildane wrote: And a FPV camera on the hex that sends realtime video back to my VR goggles.
I have a very cheap camera under the T-rex 550 and made two flying videos on Youtube with it. VR would be fun, but then I would also like to have telemetry and a HUD.
Basildane wrote: The best part about helis and drones is that you can fly anywhere. I can just walk into my backyard and fly for 15 minutes, then go on to something else. No need to pack up and drive to a field or club and go through all the trouble to fly a plane.
Just look for 'T-Rex vs unsuspecting cows' on Youtube. . And I would not have much room for planes in my little appartment.
Basildane wrote: So what are you using for radios? Futaba? Graupner?
First I used a Spektrum DX6, which came with the Blade 450. Then I had some trouble with the sticks. I had to open up and clean the potentiometers several times or risk losing control in flight. Since then I use a Spektrum DX8 which is of much better quality.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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From Marc Clifton's post, below The Lounge[^], I need to mention that we are still awaiting our Nigerian based concurrency.
And, of course, the appropriate account access to make large deposits for any existing currency of any type you may wish.
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