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Peter Shaw wrote: but I feel it just gives the beginners the wrong message.
It certainly gives a message -- look at the complicated mess web development is! It should be simpler, and it can be simpler, but unfortunately boys love their tools / toys, and it seems geeks are no exception.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Now that bit, you do get my vote on 
It's a complete and utter mess, the largest problem is the NIH syndrome that seems to be more prevalant in webdev than any other branch.
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Wise words Mr Shaw, wise words.
I'm going to be interested to see how this all plays out once we add Web assembly to the mix.
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Indeed so.
Whats going to be more interesting however is "Silverlight Take 2" "Blazor", if Steve Sanderson get's his own way...
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Marc Clifton wrote: None-the-less, this is probably just 1% of the entire playing field.
So very true!
No offense to the roadmap author, but this "roadmap" appears to be simply an opinion.
If it's not an opinion, what facts is it based on? There are many prediction models, including ranking technologies by the number of questions asked on Google, the number of job reqs posted, the number of projects in GitHub (or any repository), etc.
The problem with all these models is that they are part of the elephant and everyone is a blind man.
Our industry is horribly fragmented and making decisions on what technologies to learn is a tough one. I read industry news to get ideas but look at local jobs to see what is in demand in my area.
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BryanFazekas wrote: If it's not an opinion, what facts is it based on?
It is however actually an accurate roadmap, as far as I've experienced having gone down the Ruby and Python path a bit. There are a lot of choices and he does isolate them into reasonably well organized groupings.
BryanFazekas wrote: I read industry news to get ideas but look at local jobs to see what is in demand in my area.
Unfortunately, what is in demand (in any area) seems to be driven not by logic. When given the opportunity, I actually avoid even ASP.NET and Entity Framework, as well as any Javascript MVVM / MVC framework, but that's me.
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it is probably biased as the guys is more inclined to PHP development as server side language.
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But who's using what?
Everybody and their dog now wants their own crypto-currency.
Someone eats a dirt sandwhich ... suddenly everyone wants it on the menu.
Doesn't mean it's good eating.
(And the more "options" / choices one has, the more "anxious" one tends to be).
What IS a web developer anyway?
Has to be "browser based"? Who says?
My apps communicate over TCP. Does that make me a "web developer"?
Or does it need to incorporate a "browser"? No ... because REST doesn't.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
modified 20-Feb-18 16:35pm.
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Returned Value Of The Day ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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Random Video OTD. I did one yesterday as well.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Personally I found that one pretty cr*ppy.
Like this one better  (oldy)
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There's a ton of those. Some are better than others. Still an interesting idea, though.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Traffic lights. 
Need I say more? If you have never driven there then this is meaningless to you.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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We have them too over here in Holland 
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Your (Dutch) problem is the bikes...thousands of the elephants'ers....working against any moving cars. I visited Hengelo and Enschade a few times...bikes everywhere. Demons on 2 wheels.
Ken
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Cycle lanes are dangerous. You turn right off a road, and some clown on a bike is coming up your inside at 20 mph! And YOU have to give way!
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Even worse as a pedestrian (who might or might not have been on the ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) ) Cyclists assume they do not have to obey traffic laws
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glennPattonWork wrote: Cyclists assume they do not have to obey traffic laws
Just like so many motorists these days.
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Quote: Enschade
That's an appropriate name for Enschede I think (means something like En-damaged) haha
And I agree, bikers are rats on wheels !
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I have a rough time pronouncing it, never mind spelling it. Nice town though. Lots of decent Pubs, with good food, and Grolsch is a decent beer. People were pretty friendly and worked through our language barrier, making for a pleasant work trip.
Ken
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They're needed because every bad driver in the world comes here to Florida with the idea that all of a sudden they can drive.
Don't let your mind wander too far.
It's too small to be let out alone.
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Why do they take so elephanting long to change??? Life is too sort...
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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They take so long to change because if they didn't the old people would sit through them.
Don't let your mind wander too far.
It's too small to be let out alone.
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Hahahahahaha - I believe that! Made a long weekend seem like we spent it waiting for lights to change!
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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