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My phone had NFC, so I decided to give it a try. I've never had any problems with it, and have found it convenient from time to time when I don't have to pull out my wallet and could just use the phone to pay.
But if it went away tomorrow though, it's not something I'd miss, or long for. Some people may find it convenient that it gathers all transactions and displays it in one place, etc. But I know where my money is exactly going; so, I don't need Google to (know it as well, or) display it for me.
Smooth? Yes. Ground-breaking, or even essential? Certainly not.
If you do use it though, keep NFC turned off at all times for obvious reasons except for when you're paying. 
modified 14-Mar-18 18:49pm.
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No and I'm not planning to do so. I don't like when the big corporations directly tap into my bank account. It has something to do with trust. More important, I don't want to lose the touch to my money that I have available. The best system for me to prevent overspending, is to walk up to the ATM and get the money in my hand and into the wallet. Of course I use credit cards but already there I find it difficult to keep the overview sometimes.
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I believe they are associated with your credit card (although I would imagine debit/checking accounts would also be supported).
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No. No. No. No. In case any others come to mind . . . no.
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Apple Pay. Works well, never had any issues. I'm sure Apple is collecting all of my data, but I trust they won't share with anyone else. Apple is known to not "play well with others".
Actually, not a lot of places take any mobile payment system near where I live (small city, Midwest USA); standard credit cards are big here. Now, with the chip system (instead of swiping), checking out takes about 6-8 times as long as before! Progress.
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Thank you. How easy is the check out process? Instead of taking your wallet out, you take your phone out, and follow the prompts?
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I have iPhone 7; it is easier than that. It truly consists of click home button twice to wake phone and put in "wallet" mode, hold iPhone by the reader keeping thumb on home button until it beeps (less than a second). That's it. It works fabulously; incredibly quick; I love it! It just isn't accepted enough places. More continue to accept it, but mobile payments are slow to being adopted here.
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Thank you, that sounds like a really smooth experience.
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I just installed Venmo, a mobile payment system by PayPal that my son and his cohorts use to transfer money to each other. One doesn't apparently need a PayPal account to use it.
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Yes, I've heard of it. It's also notorious for its use as a manufactured spending device in the churning community.
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I use Apple Pay every chance I get. With the Watch, I don't even take the phone out any more.
Faster than punching in a PIN.
I wish Walmart used it.
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... (in part, at least) and one of them is the Tide Pod Challenge.
If you don't know what that is, move along (and think yourself lucky. Don;t bother to google it, it's very, very stupid).
There is a solution however: New design[^]
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Are you sure it's Internet fault? Young idiots did stupid stuff like this way before personal computers entered the households. Urban myths, games of daring and similar stuff always happened, it simply wasn't "news material".
From people smoking plastic to inhaling old style household products (the ones without any kind of CE approval) to jumping down from the first or second floor, parkouring across balconies, climbing over high voltage lines, playing "dodge the train at the last second", stealing from farmers (who often shot them with salt), shooting each other with slingshots, using alcohol bottles as flamethrowers, playing in abandoned and crumbling buildings... And I'm listing only things that my parents did from age 6 to 14, when Internet wasn't even a thing in my country.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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How about the idiots that test bulletproof vests by having their friends shoot them?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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Just to get a good rating on youtube ... 
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It happened a lot even before youtube. At least now the lazy idiots first look for a video and see most of the comments. Go take a look to Darwin Awards...
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My gun safety is cringing.
Still less stupid than those who try it with a knife - which has the perfect shape to tear through kevlar.
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Must be the same guys who have problems with Darwin.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Yeah, I know what you mean - but the internet lets one idiot feed a stupid idea to people all over the world in a few minutes. So instead of a couple of dozen morons eating washing liquid in a city, you get a couple of million even stupider people doing it world wide.
Now, if we had a chemical that rendered you sterile and we got eating that out as a meme ... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: So instead of a couple of dozen morons eating washing liquid in a city, you get a couple of million even stupider people doing it world wide.
I wouldn't be so sure, mostly it's the news agencies milking the phenomenon - the fact that response times are faster because it gets to public attention in days makes it less dangerous than those ages old urban legends that were alive for decades, because happened only in sporadic undocumented cases in unconnected places and then were narrated by the reliable word of mouth across several layers of people.
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den2k88 wrote: I wouldn't be so sure, mostly it's the news agencies milking the phenomenon
By the time the news agencies go to it it's already a phenomenon. They may encourage a few late-comers, but by and large, stupidity can outrun them on any day.
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Yes but there is a difference between seeing 5 news of the same thing happening because it has a high incidence and seeing 5 news and they were the only cases. Add the fact that the proliferation of agencies-for-peanuts (the ones that give away news for free, making money through advertisement) the same event can and will be narrated in dozens different flavours, changing places, names, ethnicities and quantities thus giving the impression that oh my dog it's an emergency please someone thinks fo the childraaa!
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Yes, I'm inclined to agree. It's got all the vague phrasing of the traditional urban legend "lots of teenagers", "possible death" etc., it all seems a bit "A friend of a friend knew this kid ..." to me.
I guess the internet allows it to be augmented by videos (fake or otherwise) and allows it to spread a bit faster than stories used to but it's pretty much the same thing.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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And then, when the worst of all this was over, we used to get a letter from the government that told us where we had to go to receive rifles and hand grenades and get some lessons on how to use them. But only for three months. After that we got to the really dangerous stuff.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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