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Lopatir wrote: SSD drives, including SSD externals - I can't stop saying this, throw away your spinners.
when backups only take seconds (faster than you can get yourself a cup of coffee) it's no longer a chore that you put off until tomorrow coz you're to shagged.
My backups typically run overnight; it doesn't matter to me how long they take.
And even though they've been dropping in price, spinners are still far cheaper than SSDs. If I wanted to get an extra set of backup drives for everything I have, I'd need about 24TB (I'm being lazy and not separating out copies of my own ripped DVD purchases as part of my backup set). The last set of 8TB drives I bought (best price/capacity ratio I found at the time) was $180 each ($540). With some arm-twisting, I could justify that.
A quick Amazon search shows that 4TB SSDs are still ridiculously expensive ($850; I'd need 6 of them, or $5100). 2TB SSDs are much more reasonable ($380--I have one to host VMs), but then I'd need 12 of them, so that makes $4560. At over 8x the price, I can't justify that.
My NAS is all spinners and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. Spinners (even accessed across my LAN) are plenty fast to stream movies as I watch them in realtime; same for music. To me it never made any sense to put things that don't need extra-fast access on SSDs.
Of course it's all a matter of needs and volume, so YMMV. I'm just objecting to blanket statements such as "throw away your spinners", is all.  Anyone you can convince should send them to me; I could use them as extra backups. :-p
(And yes, all of this goes out the window the instant the price/capacity ratio of SSDs beats spinning disks...I'm still patiently waiting for that day)
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actually I'll give you the media library is still a case for spinners (given volume required for the price as you point out). Not much else though.
NAS too is OK for spinners, as you say with backups automated seeing as they are on 24/7.
My take was OP was speaking to active files required and updated daily (so unlikely to be GB's), ... some on pc, some on laptop, some on thumbs and even on the phone - my points really came down to:
1. choose a master (likely the PC),
2. make it a habit to maintain that master up-to-date, (tip: use email to spur that action)
3. to make 2 less of a chore use the fastest solution(s) you can get
(because if it is a huge chore, well we humans are naturally lazy creatures so...)
BTW: Personally I've given up on the media library - kept too many things that I would never look at again (too much to feasibly watch), and seeing as really cheap access to older content comes bundled with the various movie/tv subscriptions even more didn't see the point
- but that's my way, absolutely not saying everyone should do this - luckily we [nearly] all live in a world we we can choose to our own preferences.
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Lopatir wrote: and seeing as really cheap access to older content comes bundled with the various movie/tv subscriptions
You mean like Ultraviolet, which have recently emailed me to tell me they were shutting down their service and I was going to lose access to my purchased DVD/Blu-ray streaming option unless I somehow find the means to transfer what they think I own to another provider?
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I would call it Data Compartmentalization rather than Data Disorganization.
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If it wasn't for disorganization I wouldn't have any organization at all.
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As I've said in the past, a cheap rationalization is better than none at all. 
Software Zen: delete this;
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As far as sharing files between your desktop and your laptop, here is my strategy:
My setup involves a file server but it's not required. My desktop uses mapped drives to the server where all development projects, docs, etc. lives. My laptop uses the same mapped drives, but with one difference...they are configured to be available offline. I also use an external drive for customer databases and documents. That drive is either plugged into the desktop or travels with the laptop for the one day a week that I use it. Before taking the laptop home, I make sure that it synchs with the server. This means that I'm always working with the same files on either machine. A nice side-effect is that you basically have an automatic backup on the laptop.
I've used this method for a long time and it works well enough for my needs. It actually saved my bacon a few years ago when my server's data drive went kaput.
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Admit you've got a problem? Come to the conclusion that there is no root cause of it. Like you said, you started somewhere other than where you thought you'd end up ... here with so many files. What do you need a diagnosis for anyway? Why did you get a computer in the first place? Were you comparing the calculating abilities of your Ti-89 to the abilities of the calculator that came with Windows Accessories? Then found you had a lot of space left on your 1 GB PATA and decided to store converted .avi from your camcorder because the box also had a slot on the motherboard to add a Firewire card which made it easy to do so? There were tons of free applications available for download on the internet to do things with a computer, do them better than anything also found in Accessories, so you began to think you could write software just as good as either? My head first exploded when I began to have to pay for software to write software. Then the outlay of funds became the delimiter of my disorganization itself. So ... there. The disorganization you're probably talking about is much greater than your own and SHOULDN'T be a cause for concern. Get a hobby?
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It looks like life happened to you?
And endless struggle and pull-o-war between chaos and organisation! 
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What you're running into is one of the fundamental failures of computer systems. Computer's have no clue what they are storing! In fact, my industry (the storage industry) seems to think that all we need to provide you is a directory and a filename and you should worship us. In reality, people don't want to work with files, they want to work with something called Information Assets. These are collections of files, metadata, people, processes, emails, etc., that as a set, are meaningful to your or your business. These things change, are related to one another, are part of larger sets, etc. This is how people think, talk, communicate with others, and yet computer's don't even come close to supporting this type of behavior.
If you would like to see more about the idea of Information Assets with an example, here is a link to a short paper on the subject. "www.expeditefile.com/assets/assetmanagementpart1v2.pdf" - Introduction To Information Asset Management. It is a no-register PDF.
There are a huge number of other failures that are caused by this wrong information model. However, what's worse is the industry forces every computer owner to go figure out their own way to maintain the integrity of their "digital assets". That's why you have seen multiple suggestions on how to do backup, etc.
What you have touched on is a huge issue that I'm afraid, very few people understand much less have any way to solve. Hopefully, we will be able to fix this someday... 
Bruce
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One word cloud.
I have a One Drive biz account.
Everything important is stored there in a logical tree structure.
I make sure I have two computers that can sync the entire one drive. And every month or so I copy to an external drive then turn the drive off.
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Step 1.
Dump every piece of clothing you own on the bed.
Go through each piece, if it does not spark joy, put it in the discard pile
otherwise put it in the keep pile.
etc.
Eventually, you will make it to your hard drive.
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Anything that gives me pause, gets copied to a cloud drive and / or a dedicated external drive.
Copy over the outlook pst files once in a while. Share a cloud folder or two. That's it.
Just attach a "generation #" to the file if there is going to be a collision.
Once you have x generations, start deleting the older ones.
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― Blaise Pascal
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44. She backs American leader (5)
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44) SUSAN?
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I told them to delete all data they have on me.airbnb said: Hi Mark ,
Thank you for your email dated February 20th, 2019.
Hope this message finds you well. My name is Florencia from Airbnb team.
We understand that you would like to exercise one of your rights under the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), namely the right of erasure your data.
As a data controller, Airbnb has to verify that the person making the request is, in fact, the data subject entitled to make them. We have implemented identification and verification procedures to ensure that we do not edit, delete, or hand over personal information at the request of, or to a person impersonating a data subject.
We kindly ask you to re-send us your request and to attach a photocopy of your proof of identity.
Of course, "Florencia from Airbnb team" is probably, in reality, "big fat slob Miguel from mother's basement", but I can't be @rsed to demand certified copies of his passport and employment contract (yet).I replied: What a very "clever" and slimy demand.
How, exactly, will a photograph of me prove my identity, when you don't know what I look like?
The e-mail address that I use to log in is all the proof of who I am that you need, because it is the only thing you have that connects me to my account.
Do not try to get clever with me; it will only inspire me to take harsher action against you.
They're already in for a sh1tstorm of trouble, because my "buddy at the Ministry" agrees that the way they are coercing people to hand over their passports contravenes more than one current law.
If I might make a suggestion: don't use their services, and especially don't pay for anything through them, because it's quite likely you'll lose your money, when they shut the site down and run for mouseholes.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: They're already in for a sh1tstorm of trouble, because my "buddy at the Ministry" agrees that the way they are coercing people to hand over their passports contravenes more than one current law.
Also no guarantee that any employee doesn't go on a holiday using my credentials.
They can have a copy of the ID-card, with everything but the name blurred out, and written in large black font "airbnb 2019". It would still be a valid ID, just a bit harder to reuse it.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Consider this.
You send your ID to prove you are the person requesting to remove your data, and they duly remove your data.
But: They will need keep your request and proof to prove that it was you that requested your data be removed. Why:
- the regulator needs proof that they honored YOUR request.
- the other you asks why your data was deleted (cover their own asses)
Face it, you can not be erased.
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Lopatir wrote: the other you asks why your data was deleted (cover their own asses)
"Because I have the right to ask for that, under current laws".
They can ask what they want; how you answer is up to you.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Lopatir wrote: - the regulator needs proof that they honored YOUR request.
"We have no record of this person".
How does that not work?
The idea that they have to store a copy of my passport (on what is probably a number of eminently hackable servers) in order to delete my data goes beyond the pale.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
modified 23-Feb-19 11:24am.
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I was sort of joking but it is actually true to some extent.
Tax authorities for instance require organisations to keep full records of financial transactions for a number of years (typically 5 - 11 years) so they actually can not totally expunge all records they have. (Ideally though that would be kept separate / isolated from the day-to-day booking systems.)
But even the authority controlling privacy needs to know that requests made for personal information removal are being honored, just saying "we have no records" would not suffice, as suggested the minimal requirement would be to record the request for data removal with some means of identifying the source of that request was verified and performed. Again it should be held away from the day-to-day operational systems.
Albeit separated, some data must and will be be retained.
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I don't know what you beef is with Airbnb, but replying to someone who just does their job (whether it's lovely Florencia or big fat slob Miguel doesn't matter) ""clever"" and "slimy" and threatening with "harsher action" at their very first response makes you the a**hole here.
How about:
Hi Florencia,
I'm well, thank you, I hope you're good as well.
You're asking for a photocopy, but I don't see how that's going to help because you don't know what I look like.
I'm emailing you from this email address, which should be proof enough that I am who I am.
Please let me know when my account is deleted.
Best,
Mark That sounds so much nicer while still conveying the message.
If they keep insisting you can reply in a harsher tone and even take "harsher action" (against Airbnb, not Florencia).
Still no reason to call people slimy and "clever" though.
You're complaining about people, but to me it seems you're the problem.
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You're unaware of the full history, so your misapprehension can be excused.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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