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Thanks, but it's only the original 2013 edition they've got (The one with MVC 4 in the title). The 2016 edition is out of stock too.
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I don't know much about these exams and how they are handled and processed, but the lack of books indicates a few things to me:
1. All study materials are being moved online only?
2. Lack of interest in these certification courses?
3. Possibly due to #2, MS is phasing this out?
I find it really hard to believe that up to date study materials would not be available worldwide for something that was still active and sought after, such as certifications, etc.
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Yeah, that was my thought. They are probably being deprecated.
But unfortunately it's still a requirement for gold partnership status, so we've got to do them.
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Simon P Stevens wrote: if they can't keep the material up to date with the exams.
But the material you are looking for is book, right? And Microsoft often does not publish books, it's third parties that do that. But the Microsoft site and then experience has all the information you need.
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Exactly - When I did Windows and .NET 4 Developer Certifications a few years ago - I took a preparation course from a 3rd party and they provided books and labs. But I never thought that the exams would be that hard… Reading and working through 1000 books won't help much, you really need practical experience as a professional developer because the "Questions" are kind of complex Scenarios you have to suggest solutions. Though I don't know if it's the same with other certifications, anyone who says these certifications are not worth the paper has no clue! All other certified developers I ever met were really good - and drop rate was 60% when I managed to make it (the course and the exams cost 12k Euro if you pass or not....)
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Taking a different tack, perhaps someone, somewhere, is trying to tell you something . . .
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I'm sure they are, but I can't work out what it is? 
We are already a software house that uses C#.net, SQL & Azure. We use MVC for an API, but not the view side of things, and we don't use .net core yet. The people are also a mix, so for example, the people who know Azure best are typically different people to those who know C# and SQL best. I consider myself a pretty experience developer, I've worked with a wide range of tech, almost all around the Microsoft ecosystem, so I should be an ideal candidate for these certs, but I have a few gaps in the specifics and I would like to have a way to add to my knowledge and fill those gaps without just randomly hunting around through MSDN docs.
So is the thing they are trying to tell me that we aren't eligible for partnership status because we don't use one specific piece of technology that they have on the certification path? Or because our people have a mix of skills rather than each person having the full stack? That would be a bit frustrating.
Or is the thing they are trying to tell me that the exams are being deprecated soon hence they aren't bothering to keep the material up to date? In which case, it would be nice if they removed them from requirement for partnership.
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Simon P Stevens wrote: Or is the thing they are trying to tell me that the exams are being deprecated soon hence
Consider the face-in-their-phone crowd coming in behind you - they're heavily adapted to not learning since they can 'look it up on their phone' - so, no sense alienating them.
As for certs - you are probably aware that a substantial number of professional programmers never to a computer science course in college - have a degree (if any) in something else.
Depending upon the type of coding, the real value added could just be a combination of experience and innate talent. The exams will show the possibility that a person has, at the least, been exposed to the material - but do you want, say, a carpenter who's read all the books on carpentry and woodworking to work on your house? "Ooops" is, alas, an important and necessary teacher.
Meanwhile - those with the money that hire us often have their notion as to importance based upon articles they read about "The Latest and the Greatest".
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Just send me $39.95 and I'll designate you a MS. Certified
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Great. Does that count towards the MS partnership too
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... but JIRA is such a stinking pile of sh*t!
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Must be how it was implemented. We use it with minimal issues.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: Must be how it was implemented. We use it with minimal issues.
Some of it is the user experience, for example, how the styling toolbar scrolls up, up, and away when writing a comment on a ticket.
Other things are how unintuitive (though some may disagree) it is to do things. I spent 30 minutes googling and looking for how to create an epic. You can't just create an epic in the "assign epic" dialog. Oh look, it's really stupidly simple -- go to the Roadmap and just add it there. Wow, that's intuitive.
I often work on things outside of the sprint -- I want to see all the things on my board, not just the damn sprint.
I'd like to review tickets I've completed so I can revisit my notes for similar issues. Seems like an impossible task. I keep separate notes. 
And why can't I assign a ticket to two or more people? I get the idea that the issue should be specific enough for the person, but seriously, don't force me into the JIRA way of thinking -- there are times I want a general issue to start with, assigned to the people that are going to be involved, and maybe if they need further guidance, I'll break it out into specific issues for each person.
The list goes on...
[edit] I want a status that is more flexible, like "waiting for customer to reply". Possibly configurable, but I can't find it in the settings. They could make it easier with a right-click or gear icon[/edit]
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modified 16-Apr-19 15:11pm.
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Okay if I needed to do all those things I probably would become just as frustrated.
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Marc Clifton wrote: why can't I assign a ticket to two or more people?
Maybe you should do what my employer does - eliminate staff and reassign their responsibilities to the survivors until only one person applies to any given issue. 
Software Zen: delete this;
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But on the bright side, it generates all those email, every time anyone edits anything. 
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Agreed.
Edit - I heard the creator(s) made a stupid amount of cash out of it too, if it makes you feel any better.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I hate Jira too. Our shop hit the stop button with them about 2 years ago, and have not looked back.
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What do you use instead? If any.
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We use TFS currently. While it is not perfect it is far less of a headache for us than Jira, and integrates nicely with VS
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That's not a good option. I have developed a strong dislike for the inflexibility of TFS.
But we're using trello as a bugtracking system at the moment and it's far from optimal.
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We run 2 enterprise solutions through TFS. We have QA testers, Project Managers, etc. using it too with no major issues. I guess it all comes down to personal preference, and business needs.
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Bugzilla?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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