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Quote: How would you know?
I normally keep to myself and say very little. I only hope that my personality does not change much in my sleep!
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Hope and prayer, a damn proven strategy 
Android sleep recorder.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO.
I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place.
Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix.
This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs.
I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done.
It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward.
Why visual studio? why?
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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Use the vim, Witch, use the vim!
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I run linux with a win7 vm for dev work on a 32gb box. I give the win7 vm four of the machines six cores and 24gb of RAM. I turn on internet access just long enough (one day per month) to get visual studio updates, and then turn it off again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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My machine is currently an 8GB linux box with 5GB allocated to a win10 VM.
It works better than you might expect but I don't want to try and run two at once!
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I do a similar thing, win 7, but only 2 (of 6) cores
... and I only just realised last weekend 2GB RAM - yes 2G - and it was still really responsive.
one item that does (did) slow it down (even with more RAM) is the background updater
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft visual studio\installer\resources\app\servicehub\services\microsoft.visualstudio.setup.service\backgrounddownload.exe (- with the network blocked it 'self-fixes' that by firing off even more instances  )
Anyway I renamed that file (i.e. ".exe" -> ".noexe") and likewise only change the name back when I open the network for it to check/do updates.
finally there's also an autostart service "Visual Studio Standard Collector Service 150"
vs works absolutely fine without it (connected or no), seemingly does nothing ....
comments indicate it can be a memory hog
- I dislike useless baggage, akin to carrying a 'spare' tin of pink [house] roof paint in the car when your house's roof is concrete tiles.
- "150" ????
set that service to disabled (and then just stop it, no reboot required.)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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Geez, 2GB with win and VS?
I don't think I can get away with that since I do VSIX development which requires multiple instances of VS open.
From my experience VS likes to eat between 1/4 and 1/2 GB depending on how it's feeling that day.
Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
That's another benefit of using VM, I run my browsers/email on the host.
worth keeping what's installed on the guests to minimal requirements, cleaner, less to clone / snapshot or even rebuild, less chance of progs/installers interfering.
- If you run databases worthwhile to install on host or separate guests,
- also separate dev and test guests (common files/directories on host shared directories)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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The big updates take me about five minutes...
I must say I never have a problem with updates.
Take a break, get something to drink, stop by in the Lounge...
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Same here, never had an issue at all with internet speed, VS (or whatever) update speed, on both work and home machines.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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Visual studio downloader, first downloads, then asks you; do you want to upgrade.
Not the other way around.
So of cause you're not waiting for downloads, when its done downloading, when it asks you 
(It's magic!)
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Mine is setup to never download without my permission. I get notifications letting me know there is an upgraded version. I decide when it gets downloaded and installed. I have this configured for both my personal and work machines.
Perhaps, some people have no control over their work environments; not sure.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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My point was that downloading the update, does not stop anyone from working in VS.
It's first when they apply the actual update, that it takes time.
And, on a sidenote; multiple discussions has said that VS is one of the programs that benefiths the most from being installed on a ssd, with its huge amount of small files.
But no, downloading updates, no matter if you approve them or not, still will not you from working with VS while it downloads.
And, just to be fair; i've never had a vs minor update that required me to reboot… only when moving from 2017 to 2019; but these 16.4.2 to 16.4.3, or even 16.2.0 to 16.3.1.. still does not require reboot here.
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Yeah. A lot of people complain here about VS, Windows OS, and Microsoft in general. I usually don't.
It has been my experience that most, not all, of the complainers are doing it wrong. Wasted breath. Wasted typing. Wasted time.
Microsoft and VS has made me very happy financially. I make an excellent living using VS and Microsoft products (among others of course).
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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I don't have your connection speed. Mine is woeful, though i'll be upgrading this year. I am just loath to give comcast any more money.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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And after the installation; please reboot NOW! It stays Windows....Loves to stick to it bad habits
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
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Quote: Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
Hear! Hear!
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I mean, yes but...
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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There's always emacs.
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That's as true as can be, but it's the windows infrastructure and updater that's the problem.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Forsooth! 
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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