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I found working in C gave me a solid foundation for how code lays things out in memory and how to do pointer operations, and what a cast does. With C++ and vtbls and 30 different types of casts  it muddies the water.
But because of my C experience it's relatively easy (except when .net makes it hard as above) to use P/Invoke and to marshal structures and stuff
Real programmers use butterflies
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I fell in love with C++ because of templates. Once I understood the full breadth of what you could do with generic programming - well beyond creating typed containers! it was all over for me. There was no going back. I still miss it while i'm coding in C#. Generics just aren't the same.
Real programmers use butterflies
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 I have to admit I haven't fully mastered them, because I haven't found myself needing them. My belief is they are handy when you have multiple types that you want to do the same thing to, but based on type, and I haven't often found myself with that scenario. Every time it seems like one type needs something subtly or substantially different! Way back when they really made my head hurt, but looking at Sergey's Delegates, which was my toothing experience, I can now follow what is happening, and refactor names to finally make sense to me! So maybe I'm not totally hopeless!
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I was being slightly ironic, and am surprised you took it so seriously. I believe most languages have their good and bad points. Whether C, C++, C# or even VB the important thing is to choose the best one for each particular job. One of the things that C undeniably gives you is an understanding of the basics of memory structure, stacks and heaps, functions and pointers; something that is completely lost on many modern developers - just browse QA for an hour.
David O'Neil wrote: I've always wondered why so many like yourself seem to love C so much, given that its syntax (was?) so easy to become ugly, with all the casting involved, and can fairly easily get the deeply nested logic I encountered. I'm not asking to attack C, just curious as to whether I'm overlooking something big, since most C stuff can be done in C++ if you chose not to use objects. And if you slightly objectify things, the casting is reduced.
It is not difficult to write C without excessive casting or nesting, and look at all the different types of cast in C++. I agree that objects can reduce the use of casts, but only for those who really understand the language. I have seen some really bad C++ code in my time; as well as other languages.
Incidentally, back in my mainframe days I worked briefly with Burroughs systems whose operating system was written completely in Algol-60 - now there was an innovative design.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I was being slightly ironic, and am surprised you took it so seriously.
I have heard the claim from several people, including Linus, and was genuinely curious whether I was missing something big. Because of those other claims, I'm sorry to say I totally missed any irony you embedded in your statement!Richard MacCutchan wrote: I have seen some really bad C++ code in my time
Yes.
Thanks for taking time to respond!
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Just been reading your blog which makes interesting reading. I also learned a new word that I have never come across before: conniption.
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I'm working on putting the astronomic knowledge into video form, to make it much easier to understand. If you want I'll try to remember to send you an email through CP's system when its done in probably a month. Glad to have expanded your vocabulary! It's a good word! If everyone had a conniption about our current status, things would get fixed fast!
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'm sorry, but I need some more compelling arguments
Someone else said: My compiler compiled your compiler
Check mate  
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I said "compelling" arguments, not "compiling" arguments
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Ah... sorry. My left ear is not working that good. 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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You try interfacing with a MIDI driver at this level. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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No thanks, I stay clear of P/Invoke when I can 
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do I smell an article coming up ?
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Are monkeys who share an Amazon account Prime mates?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Hey, now, "semi-evolved simians" if you don't mind.
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Possibly on our next poll? From what I could tail, they will be the swing-vote.
(by the way, a + for that one). If puns could be considered poetry, that would be an opus magnum, but it isn't so it's not.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Prime mates
And if all they watch are Tarzan movies, does that make them di-vines?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Yay! I win!
Extremely difficult
and not properly (anag)
finished. FIENDISH FIENDISH
So, should I make tomorrow's fiendish, or angelic? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That's nothing; the Society for Creative Anachronism has an army of hamsters!
The Fighting Hamsters of Calontir
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Dinosaurs? 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Birds evolved from a group of meat-eating dinosaurs called theropods... Source[^]
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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