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So - Apple's moving into manufacturing its own proprietary chips[^]. What could be behind it?
Did you say innovation - I'd put that low on their list.
More likely, the usual apple way of doing business: iGotcha !
All they need to do is deviate a little from the essential standard observed by Intel and AMD (and others) and you are super-stuck with apple everything. Not just their threat of voiding your warranty but just plain making sure nothing else will work.
Just wait and see.
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why on earth should i care what chipset they use? as long as the device does the job i bought it to do, what does it matter how it works?
if i cared about messing with hardware, i'd get a Raspberry Pi and start electrocuting myself.
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You speak for yourself - and you have.
I'm concerned with the upcoming victims of their unabashed restraint of trade. You're happy with - nay, embrace their greed - so there's nothing I can say to reshape your way of thinking.
You may be able to have the CPU in any one of several designer colors - so I understand you choice
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what trade is being restrained by Apple not using Intel chips anymore?
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Apple's policy: use our stuff and only software we authorize or we take away your warranty, for a start.
And their current assault on repair shoppes not beholding to them.
. . . that should do it, for now
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what does that have to do with their use of Intel chips?
and, taking something apart to modify it voids most warranties. go ahead, take apart your Android phone and see if the manufacturer still covers it.
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You really ought to read the original post, again.
And each time you jump to ever more extreme example that are, in fact, not quite relevant, starts to indicate a lack of faith in your own decisions.
Ya' know? Some people, when imprisoned for a long time, chaff at the idea of every being free as it would make them uncomfortable to have to make their own decisions.
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yes, i've read your OP.
still waiting to hear why a story about Apply not using Intel chips (that's what the story you linked to is about, it's the f'ing headline for example) has anything to do with prison or restraint of trade.
or, don't tell me. i'm sure it's silly.
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Right to Repair is probably behind it. Chip vendors might be telling Apple to go f themselves when Apple demands they that not sell chips to anyone but Apple.
So, if Apple is the chip vendor, they have complete control over who they chips to, namely, only themselves.
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Isn't that covered by monopoly legislation*?
* I.e. ignored until they get a "rap on the knuckles" fine a fraction of the extra profit they already made
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In the US, it falls under "restraint of trade". Simplistically, you can invent something new and it can take its own components - but you cannot prevent anyone else from making compatible components to compete (so long as they don't violate your patents).
The thing is, when they threaten a warranty they somehow get away with it.
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My guess is they botch it, and after a few years of eating losses on the endeavor they go back to using a standard chipset.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I don't think I was clear about what I mean by "botch it" - what I mean is my bet is it raises the TCO and/or manufacturing, support and quality control costs where it ends up being bad for business over the long haul and they return to a standard chipset.
I'm not saying the chip doesn't work, or that its performance is bad or anything like that.
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They're quoting the equivalent of "miles per gallon" ... and making it their selling point.
AMD is the one to beat for performance (not just shiny).
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if you're talking about mobile devices, 'mpg' is exactly what you want because mpg = battery life.
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Your guess - now my hope.
I own only iNothing - but nonetheless, their business model "enrages" me.
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We agree on that. I haven't given Apple a dime, and I won't because they screwed my family over in 1986.
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Well it's an ARM chip, so you're already super stuck with it right from the start.
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Sears did the same thing with some of their stuff, in particular lawn mowers and garden equipment. When I was young, pre college I worked repairing small engines and I refused to do major repairs on their equipment.
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How are Apple users not already stuck with Apple everything? I'm not sure I follow the conspiracy theory here.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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They're heavily stuck with apple-or-else, true - but this will probably be taking it to that next level, where software, for example, will be totally throttled. A family of compatible parts - only from them and available from those who pay for the privilege (shutting down the non-official repair options).
Never let it be said that things can't get worse !
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: shutting down the non-official repair options
I'm still not seeing the conspiracy theory here.
Apple (and other) manufacturers already have the ability to shut down third party components and repairs. At least they did until countries started passing laws barring this.
Whether they use their own chips (which they have in their phones since day 1) or someone else's is immaterial.
Personally I'm surprised they waited this long to use their own chips. Intel, whom I love and respect, dropped the ball. Badly. Apple has always been a hardware company (besides their main business of consumer design) so this totally makes sense for them.
The backroom shenanigans won't be altered by this one bit. They will continue, as they have, and governments and consumers will fight, as they do, and we'll sit back with the popcorn.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm still not seeing the conspiracy theory here.
This is the only point I'd address. I would never accuse apple of a conspiracy and all of its clandestine implications.
They've always been "in yer face" about it.* I'll give them that.
* Well, yeah - they did slow down people's stuff to inspire them to upgrade.
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