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yes, i've read your OP.
still waiting to hear why a story about Apply not using Intel chips (that's what the story you linked to is about, it's the f'ing headline for example) has anything to do with prison or restraint of trade.
or, don't tell me. i'm sure it's silly.
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Right to Repair is probably behind it. Chip vendors might be telling Apple to go f themselves when Apple demands they that not sell chips to anyone but Apple.
So, if Apple is the chip vendor, they have complete control over who they chips to, namely, only themselves.
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Isn't that covered by monopoly legislation*?
* I.e. ignored until they get a "rap on the knuckles" fine a fraction of the extra profit they already made
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In the US, it falls under "restraint of trade". Simplistically, you can invent something new and it can take its own components - but you cannot prevent anyone else from making compatible components to compete (so long as they don't violate your patents).
The thing is, when they threaten a warranty they somehow get away with it.
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My guess is they botch it, and after a few years of eating losses on the endeavor they go back to using a standard chipset.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I don't think I was clear about what I mean by "botch it" - what I mean is my bet is it raises the TCO and/or manufacturing, support and quality control costs where it ends up being bad for business over the long haul and they return to a standard chipset.
I'm not saying the chip doesn't work, or that its performance is bad or anything like that.
Real programmers use butterflies
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They're quoting the equivalent of "miles per gallon" ... and making it their selling point.
AMD is the one to beat for performance (not just shiny).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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if you're talking about mobile devices, 'mpg' is exactly what you want because mpg = battery life.
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Your guess - now my hope.
I own only iNothing - but nonetheless, their business model "enrages" me.
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We agree on that. I haven't given Apple a dime, and I won't because they screwed my family over in 1986.
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Well it's an ARM chip, so you're already super stuck with it right from the start.
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Sears did the same thing with some of their stuff, in particular lawn mowers and garden equipment. When I was young, pre college I worked repairing small engines and I refused to do major repairs on their equipment.
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How are Apple users not already stuck with Apple everything? I'm not sure I follow the conspiracy theory here.
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They're heavily stuck with apple-or-else, true - but this will probably be taking it to that next level, where software, for example, will be totally throttled. A family of compatible parts - only from them and available from those who pay for the privilege (shutting down the non-official repair options).
Never let it be said that things can't get worse !
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: shutting down the non-official repair options
I'm still not seeing the conspiracy theory here.
Apple (and other) manufacturers already have the ability to shut down third party components and repairs. At least they did until countries started passing laws barring this.
Whether they use their own chips (which they have in their phones since day 1) or someone else's is immaterial.
Personally I'm surprised they waited this long to use their own chips. Intel, whom I love and respect, dropped the ball. Badly. Apple has always been a hardware company (besides their main business of consumer design) so this totally makes sense for them.
The backroom shenanigans won't be altered by this one bit. They will continue, as they have, and governments and consumers will fight, as they do, and we'll sit back with the popcorn.
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm still not seeing the conspiracy theory here.
This is the only point I'd address. I would never accuse apple of a conspiracy and all of its clandestine implications.
They've always been "in yer face" about it.* I'll give them that.
* Well, yeah - they did slow down people's stuff to inspire them to upgrade.
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Exactly. No conspiracy. They're arrogant enough to show you exactly what they're doing. And telling you you're gonna like it.
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They've been working toward this for several years. I think about seven or eight years ago my former employers installed several systems at their fab in South San Jose, CA. Curiously, this site used to be a Fairchild fab that was condemned due to chemical storage leakage. The site was excavated quite far down and completely rebuilt over about ten years.
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So we should carefully wash any new macbooks we buy?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I think enough dirt was removed from that site to have eliminated any possible concern. For that, anyway.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I'm still going to wash it. With soap.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I have an IPad 1 and an MS Surface Go (version 1).
Never got anything to run on the IPad except a PDF reader (and Angry Birds); which required the "store" to access my own PDF's on my PC. Within 2 years, you couldn't update the OS anymore. Opera? LOL.
MS took their time, but did it right. My (baby) Surface can run VS2019. Out of S mode, it runs everything else. Paid less too. Oh, and I can build software to run on it without sacrificing my first born.
Apple makes me think of gold-plated bathroom fixtures. Oooooh, "desktop publishing" (80's).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I still have an iPad 1!
Worked great until I did a factory reset and lost all the apps. Still, I could easily just jailbreak the thing and I'm off to the races.
I like it for it's sentimental value.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Here's a brainstorm - don't buy their products!
Isn't caplitalism great!
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