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...as if thousands of lives were suddenly ended...
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yes. Exactly like that. Obviously! 
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GenJerDan wrote: Roadblocks? Yes, indeed. Never got it to work at all, way back when. No real interest in trying it out again.
How long ago was that?
My group has been using ClickOnce for over 5 years -- we have dozens of internal applications deployed from a SharePoint site. Once in a while a local instance will get bolluxed and need to be deleted and re-installed, but overall it works well for us.
Granted, the documentation is typical Microsoft documentation so we had to figure a lot of things out ourselves, but for internal WinForm applications, it handles installs and updates very well.
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Be careful. When I do that, try out old MS techniques, find them useful and really want to use them, normally MS decides to discontinue the technique a month later. 
Happened last time with Silverlight... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Nah, it won't happen again. for sure!
In other news, I started to learn VB.NET. Seems very productive and MS-Access friendly!
You should try it too! 
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We have been using it for about 10 years now with 500 - 1000 users.
We have 4 channels:
- nightly build
- internal power users
- external power users
- all users
It works ok if somewhat clunky.
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I might miss the point, but after ten years, it should not feel clunky !!
or it's one of those things that no one knows why it works and no one wants to touch it. 
I'd rather be phishing!
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It sounds like he's talking about something bigger than your average bear.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Sorry for the late answer, the mail sorter task sent the reply directly to the "read later" queue and the read task only started now. That task is really lazy, that queue now contains 1K+ entries 
Anyways, continuing the thread..
We leave ClickOnce pretty much alone and it just sorta keeps working...
The clunky part is the management of deployed libraries, For example ... [searching memory...no entries found]. Ah, it all went away. Seems it's not only the good memories that go away with age.
Thankfully I've not had to manage it in a long time. If I notice something strange I just poke the unfortunate low level hem, mail the unfortunate responsible for it about the problem.
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We used it from inception for WPF apps, deploying to 6 countries from Singapore, worked a treat once it was set up.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I do the installers for our products. I read one article about ClickOnce, back when it was in its infancy. Like the Windows Installer-based solutions, it's over-engineered and under-documented, inflexible, and a source of endless frustration for those that are required (and therefore doomed) to use it.
One of the funniest things to happen to me at work in the last few years was when the corporate IT yabbos discovered I was using unauthorized third-party software (Inno Setup[^]) for our install packages. They tried to tell me to stop until they had a chance to "vet" it. I told them (in a professional way) to get phucqed.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Is it just me?
I recently received the same content of newsletter twice. So the server sent me the same newsletter twice...
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The same happened to me as well. Groundhog day :P
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Same here, two days in a row.
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Due to a bug, that I have resolved, I had to restart the sending of the newsletters. This resulted in some getting two copies of the emails.
You should only get one going forward.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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And other people getting the letter late or not at all some days?
Today's came in at the normal just crawling out of bed time, Monday and Wednesday I didn't get it until mid/late afternoon.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I think you got mine. I didn't receive any for about a week and a half. They restarted a couple of days ago.
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It's only 6:39 PM EST, and I've just spammed the Insider News with snarky (but probably true) replies. Hopefully Kent finds them amusing.
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I do!
Also, greatly appreciated. Thank you (it’s always good to know I’m not the only person sarcastic about out industry)
TTFN - Kent
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Sometimes I think that H in your name should be an N. Especially on the good ones. 
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Actually both "n"s! Kert (Curt).
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Kent Sharkey wrote: it’s always good to know I’m not the only person sarcastic about out industry
In our industry, if you've got more than two neurons to rub together, the sarcasm just comes naturally after a few years of experience.
Software Zen: delete this;
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The cast operator is why I can cast my struct directly to an "array" of bytes and stash it in a file. It makes me happy.
It's so elegant. So concise. And so dangerous.
Real programmers use butterflies
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You've never really programmed until chasing a pointer problem.
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
JaxCoder.com
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