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Well, of course I'd only install an OS on a system that starts life with nothing of value on it (I quit doing in-place upgrades and multi-booting the moment I started using VMs). But once you start connecting to other things, all bets are off again. Especially with an OS like ChromeOS that you can't do much with if you don't link it with an online profile.
So I just tried the experiment. Went to Google, searched for "chromeos iso download". The top links are:
- A reddit page (WHY???)
- getchrome.eu, which describes itself as "a lightweight Linux distribution similar to Google Chrome OS" (so clearly, it's NOT ChromeOS, but some clone)--and the ISOs are hosted on dubious sites that try to get you to "upgrade to Pro for faster downloads" or misdirect you into downloading unrelated stuff. The bottom of the page even confirms, "Cr OS Linux is not related to Google".
- sites.google.com, which links to the site above (if they're not related, then WHY??)
- a superuser.com discussion on where to get an ISO (pretty much my own question)
- neverware.com, which seems to push for a commercial, pay-for version (which again, sounds like something that was forked)
- more dubious sites like cnet and softonic, which are known to wrap their own installers around whatever you're trying to download
The most promising of these is the superuser.com answer (aka "the StackOverflow for IT admins"), and the discussion is closed and marked off-topic. The responses all point to pre-made VMware and VirtualBox images and the like, and not something that runs natively on bare metal.
If Google is okay with letting people download ChromeOS and run it on non-Chromebooks, they sure are taking exceptional steps to remove it from the top of the search list. This, from a company that is currently facing lawsuits for promoting their own products and services over its competitors. So WTH is going on?
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I have several machines that used to run Win7, and that are all now using Ubuntu, one of them is a 14-year-old laptop). I saw no tangible performance hit using a browser.
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#realJSOP wrote: I saw no tangible performance hit using a browser.
Meaning, it neither performed better or worse?
Which is kinda my point. You can have a better OS running the browser, but it's still the browser that's going to bring the system to its knees.
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it certainly wasn't any worse than Windows, and Ubuntu ain't exactly a light-weight system, graphically speaking. It's hardware requirements are similar to Windows. Of course, I don't use chrome/chromium, and prefer Firefox instead.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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So would you say FF is more lightweight in terms of resource usage? If so, that might be the solution I'm really after...seems like every other browser now is Chrome-based...
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I have no real idea. I just "use firefox". Performance isn't an issue for me. My advice is to try it and see. There's also Brave, which is chromium without the tracking stuff.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I use Firefox on Windows, you could try that.
Or even Opera, but I mainly use that on my cell.
Cheers,
विक्रम
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Posted in QA:
Quote: Please help since I am new to wpf and not able to create radio buttons dynamically from the View Model's collection by MVVM.
It's not that he can't, but MVVM won't "let him".
(Actually, it's the curse of the "pattern" .... same difference. Big pattern. Small pattern. The pattern of patterns. After a while, the word even sounds like nonsense).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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When I was getting started, we were taught to think, not reproduce by rote: we had to code on punched cards, and the tutor got a summary of each students run count: your score dropped with each increased run above two, and was zero if you got to five.
It taught you to learn the language, and proofread your cards: it taught you to think hard before committing to code.
Now, they expect to find the code they need on CP / SO and just throw it in, compile and hand it in - just like history homework: read the page in the book, type it up in Word, hand it in.
Dev isn't like that, and frameworks and patterns don't really help them to learn what the heck they are doing. IMHO, that is!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Your 'think hard' comment reminds me of my Assembly language course experience. That professor was old school, one of those who also started via cards. In his course, if you failed a weekly quiz or homework, you failed the course, period. It was an intimidating course that broke a lot of students.
Fun times, fun times.
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Kris Lantz wrote: That professor was old school,
No he wasn't. He was just your garden variety a**hole.
Period.
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I was meaning 'old school' in his skill set, more so than his teaching style.
In any case, you're not wrong in your comment. It wasn't a secret to him or the campus.  I think he just came with the land when they broke ground to build the school. I believe he was responsible for the creation of the CS department, so he had quite a bit of freedom in how things were done.
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Sounds like the guy I had for one of my classes. He was a first order prick. The purpose of the class was to build a microprocessor-based project. I only got about 90% of my project finished, so he told me he was going to fail me for the course. The angels smiled on me, he thought about it for a minute, and said "Let's go check your exam scores." I had perfect scores on the midterm and the final exam.
I got a C in the class.
Software Zen: delete this;
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When I started, there weren't any tutors - you taught yourself. My experience with punched cards (at least initially) was filling in coding sheets and sending them off. Turn-round time was 14 days. The punishment for not getting it right was a long time delay. This encouraged you to carefully desk check before sending off. Unfortunately, that did not stop extra fortnight delays if the recipients of the coding sheets mistyped what you had written.
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That's why I still use "slashed zeros[^]", "barred Z[^]", and so forth to this day! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I have yet to find a framework that can really help solve real world problems, other than the one it was written for. The dotNet "framework" isn't really a framework, but rather a huge library of utilities and optimized base classes.
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Given that frameworks are application-specific and don't provide a complete solution for anything, your first sentence is axiomatic. It's jarring because your second sentence distinguishes a framework from a library.
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Message Removed
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Other people's children are great. You can wind them up and then leave.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I used to think the same, but then I had kids. Karma is a real b****.
But hang on, my kids are now adults. No chance of payback, Thanks for the reminder
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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yacCarsten wrote: But hang on, my kids are now adults. No chance of payback,
Yet... BWAHAHAHAHAHA
As grandpa you will have plenty of them... 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Ah, yes. Here's one of the perks I like about the Grandparent gig:
To this day, children seem to be born with a defect, by which I mean they seem to leak. It take years to finally fix the problem.
As a grandparent, when they begin to leak and otherwise ooze unpleasntries, you simply hold them up towards their parents (thus removing them from your lap or shoulder, as well) and say 'here - this is yours and it needs to be serviced.'
Observation: grandma's sometimes insist upon undertaking the work, themselves . . . ? ? ?
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I actually did that on my mom's birthday once.
I got two much younger cousins all worked up by doing stupid sh*t, such as turning their chair or tapping their heads.
Needless to say, they tried to get back at me, but the moment they did that their mother got mad at them for bothering the adults
When they sat quietly in their chair again I started pissing them off again and things repeated.
I can't imagine their mom didn't see me doing that stuff, but she couldn't really tell me what I could or could not do.
Ultimately, I invited them to my room where they could blow off some steam
Anyway, have fun at your sister's!
I'm pretty sure you're their weirdest most fun "auntcle"!
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I might be, but my family is brimming with weird. Apparently it's hereditary. 
Edit: My sister and I are very much alike. I call her my portable external id. She might be as weird as me.
Real programmers use butterflies
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