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This one is doing my head in.
I'm running Windows on a Mac. Because I love Mac hardware and evidently am a masochist.
If you plug something like a display into a USB-C port on a Mac things go a little pear shaped when Windows goes into sleep mode. Actually, when the display turns off things go weird. And then sleep makes it even weirder. And then your keyboard stops working. And then your fan goes on so hard the laptop starts hovering. So you reboot, or it reboots.
And you have a black background.
Of all the things one would think would be really easy to persist, why is it nigh impossible for Windows to keep my desktop background colour?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: And you have a black background.
I thought that was the latest fetish! I recall seeing requests for it on this site.
Chris Maunder wrote: why is it nigh impossible for Windows to keep my desktop background colour?
Umm, because you're running it on a Mac?! And the Mac detects it and subverts it? 
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Because Microsoft is becoming brain dead is the likely reason. Several years ago I read that they were deprecating screen savers. I run one cause why not? Electric Sheep is beautiful.
But if I change the defaults of the energy saver setup (ie, lengthen the time before my screen or system turns off), Windows will mysteriously STOP THE SCREENSAVER FROM STARTING. Resetting it to defaults will fix the problem, after which I can set it to longer times for awhile, then one of their 'Updates' screws its pooch.
Idjits.
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So, how are the Icons?
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Can't picture myself going into an Apple store and complaining it won't run Windows.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I would.
Let the geniuses, as they're so fond of calling themselves, figure it out.
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After they show me how to run IOS on a PC?
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Of all things...the desktop background color?
Somehow I was reminded of an article someone wrote years ago (maybe in the Win8 timeframe?) where the author attempted an experiment testing the in-place upgrade process, starting off with Windows 3.1, customizing the colors (selecting the Hot Dog Stand theme, I believe[*] - of all things...) and trying to upgrade as far as he could just to see where/when his various preferences/customizations would no longer be brought forward.
[*] Seriously, if you're going to google it if you don't remember what it looked like, wear shades. It's horrendous.
I believe his in-place upgrade process went from Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8.
I forget exactly how it went, but at least some of the colors were still being applied to the Windows 8 tiles.
I'm not sure where I was going with that. Probably just meant to say that in the Windows world, some items are persisted rather consistently, to a ridiculous extent. Others will disappear as soon as you look away from the screen.
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I really did my best to stay out of this - especially knowing that both manufacturers have a history of trying to enforce their ownership of your computer(s). Other posts to that effect have been made.
But I can remain silent no longer !
The problem is hidden in plain sight: The device is not designed to retain your "colour" settings but would work properly if you set your "color" settings.
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cheers
Chris Maunder
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Out of curiosity, does it get fixed if you go to the Task Manager and restart explorer.exe?
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Not that I can recall (though I can recall restarting explorer many, many times after it locks up coming out of sleep)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Sounds like you have a much bigger problem than the desktop colour being a bit off then.
Try starting it in a clean boot, that usually fixes quite some odd problems just by doing it.
Have to ask Randor why I suppose, I've never gotten a better answer than that the boot configuration is rewritten at every start, so a clean boot gives it a cleanish sheet so to say.
BTW, have you set "Launch Folder Windows in a separate process"?
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Try starting it in a clean boot,
You mean reboot my machine each day? That sorta defeats the purpose (I like to be able to just pass out, wake up, get back to where I left off without reloading windows and solutions)
Jörgen Andersson wrote: Launch Folder Windows in a separate process
I have not! I'll try that and see.
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Chris Maunder
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No, a Clean Boot: How to perform a clean boot in Windows[^]
Basically boot windows without most services and other startup programs, just keep the drivers and most important services, such as networking.
Just don't forget to reset to normal start afterwards.
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Actually, just restarting it once in Safe Mode, will do almost the same thing.
Using Clean Boot is just an old habit from an earlier life.
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Sounds to me like the background colour is a symptom, not a problem. My guess would be that the USB-C hardware is expecting something from the driver during wake-from-sleep that it isn't doing, and the set background color is failing (among other things). If your keyboard is plugged into a USB-C hub this makes even more sense. The fan going full blast could be a consequence of the video not behaving properly, and they're assuming the additional cooling is necessary.
One other thing to remember is that when video handling on Windows fails in some way, they tend to revert to 'safe' settings. For example, your choice of background colour might not be realizable on the mode it failed to.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I just wanted to say a Thank You to all those who participated in a fairly sensitive debate about vaccines. We each have our thoughts and fears, and we each approach this topic from different backgrounds and with different perspectives.
The conversations definitely became a little tense, but what I saw were people actually trying (in many cases) to listen, to calm things down, and most importantly, to carry on the discussion without getting personal or the whole thing just devolving into pointless name calling.
Thank you. I think I just saw a group argument on the 'net that didn't go south.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Perhaps we must ask ourselves virus this so rare?
(Sorry for that - I tend to ruin everything - well, not sorry, but something like that but not so sad)
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It's sickening, isn't it?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Not to worry, we can use you as a bad example. Please draw a big red X over your avatar.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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theoldfool wrote: Please draw a big red X over your avatar.
wouldn't it better to be some concentric red circles of different sizes starting with a dot in the middle? 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I suppose that's how they did it in the Old Days.
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Infect, this cold easily happen again. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Well, if it does, I have that possibility COVID as well.
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