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Gerry Schmitz wrote: I smell a rat.
Rats do love sewers, and I would assume, water treatment plants. 
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: I smell a rat.
A "rat" rat, or an actual Remote Access Trojan? 
If you want it described accurately, don't get your software security news from the mainstream media; they're always going to get it wrong. This week's episode of the Security Now podcast (#805) covers that story, and (DISCLAIMER) while I haven't yet listened to it, Steve Gibson tends to get closer to a story's actual sources, and usually does a very good job explaining how things have unfolded in reality. The guy still makes a living writing in assembler, so he's not afraid to getting into technical details when it suits the story.
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I've never been a TeamViewer "host"; always the fixer.
The sequence was that the client would start a session on their end, communicate the session id (via phone), I would start my session using the given id, etc.
Letting this stuff "boot up at Windows startup" and "publicizing" that fact so that anybody can get access (as some claim) is news to me ... and sounds really dumb.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: and sounds really dumb.
Consider the people typically in charge. System security is in a sad state.
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I recently posted in the W&W section about a bug report I submitted that was declared "not a bug" and I would like your opinions on the matter. The issue is I have a Visual Studio solution that contains three projects. One is an application and the other two are libraries that the app links with depending on the build option I select. Both libraries share the same code but one builds it using CUDA to run on the GPU and the other builds it to run on the CPU. Each has a debug and release option as does the app so there are four build mode options and the app is set to depend on the libraries.
The problem is when I open the Batch Build dialog and select only the four application options to be cleaned it cleans them all. I can select the four library options and only they are cleaned. This means it is cleaning the libraries because they are dependencies of the app even when I did not select them to be cleaned.
Does this seem correct to you? I think it is most definitely NOT correct. In my opinion, dependencies should have no bearing what so ever on whether something is cleaned or not. Dependencies are for building, not cleaning.
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I can see both points of view. You want to clean your application projects while leaving the libraries intact. That does not seem unreasonable, after all only you know exactly what you want to do.
The guys who designed the build rules think that whatever you are doing they must take account of any dependencies. And they do not see why that should be different for Clean and Build.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: The guys who designed the build rules think that whatever you are doing they must take account of any dependencies.
And that's IMO the point, if other things are selectable, why can't this be it too?
M.D.V. 
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Rick York wrote: Does this seem correct to you?
No, not at all
Rick York wrote: I think it is most definitely NOT correct.
So do I
I suppose that "bug reporting" has been given to external companies as many IT-Hotlines from other OEMs (not necessarily offshore) and the people that has to do the first selection are just a bit illiterated (being nice, because I don't blame them for that) so if something is difficult for them to follow or to simulate / repeat or can't be found in a kind of "possible things" table... then it gets directly "ignored" as not a bug.
I had a problem at work. I had to call the support 5 times to get it forwarded to level 2 for the first time, then speak to 3 different people in level 2 support to find out that they don't understand the issue, got a level 3 ticket, the level 3 at least understood what my problem was and forwarded it to the level 4 (the supposedly hardware guru) he didn't constent to speak with me and wrote me directly an email being a bit arrogant and answering totally bullshit... where I, my colleague and our "key-user" just looked at each other and started to hit the table with the head...
I at the end had to "hack" (nothing illegal just bending the rules a little bit) my own solution to get it solved.
M.D.V.
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My work-around is a hack too. I write a windoze version of an old unix command called "eo" as in execute on. Then I write a batch file to list all rebuildable files in VS which writes them to a file and then it calls eo to delete all files in the list. What I have to do is open a command prompt and execute this batch file to make it happen as it should.
EO is a very powerful command. There is a related command called "WS" as in walk structure that does essentially the same thing but it walks a directory path. I don't use it as much because the filtering rules are a little tougher to deal with. What I need to do now is make a hybrid that takes its filter rules from a text file and then it would be much easier. I started serious programming on the QNX operating system and it had a whole bunch of the old unix commands available. I really liked them and made my own windows versions of several of them. The internet was barely usable at the time - Alta Vista was my main search engine - so I did a lot of my own things back then.
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Cool... never heard of it before. Thanks for the lesson.
Rick York wrote: Alta Vista was my main search engine - so I did a lot of my own things back then.
Not my first one, but back then my most used one 
M.D.V.
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Yes, that's correct. To clean each component you have to right-click and select Clean through the context menu that should appear. I say "should" because I don't know if there's any such concept as "context" and mouse clicks right or left ... for, alas, I build/compile usg VS2010.
As I said to no one back in the day "I shall do no upgrades before their time".
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I only use S-Ar-Ca-Sm periodically!
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Yes, but have you been playing around with NaOH lately? 
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Oh? I thought those are the most important elements of your personality.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Short article on first einsteinium coordination complex[^].
Since it's not spelled out in this news-script type article, the reason it's special (like finally learning a bond length) is that ionic compounds (those that previously existed) are altogether different in that aspect. Think of the various groups who's cooperation led to this, symbolically: clearly they're not politicians!
The Base Article Abstract[^]
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this is all fine and dandy, but what does it really have to do with the delicate flavors of bacon cheeseburgers and chili fries?
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Hopefully, it is a precious step toward the total oblivion of all bacon products.
🐷
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You prefer the ribs? 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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BURN THE HERETIC!
BACON is the perfect food.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: BACON is the perfect food.
Second only to this.[^]
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If there was anything better than BACON, it would Satay - Wikipedia[^], from the streets, somewhere in Malaysia.
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Do not lose faith, brother! BACON is the best, now and forever.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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"Street food" satay comes darn close ...
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While working in Singapore I walked past a hawker market (see street food) when they were setting up only to see a van pull up and start unloading 20l drums of satay sauce to every vendor. No such thing as authentic street food in Singapore. Another time I was taken to a local village outside Penang where the food was interesting to say the least.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
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