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Around 20 - 25% of all infections in Ontario, Canada, are in the fully vaccinated. That's expected since we're at 80% fully vaccinated.
Here's my take on the maths:
Suppose you have 2 people, 1 vaccinated, 1 unvaccinated. Suppose they do everything together, even get exposed to COVID together. If the unvaccinated fell ill in a given situation, the vaccinated has only a 5% chance of falling ill in that same situation.
Now suppose you have a random collection of people, 80% vaccinated, getting exposed in a way that would lead them to falling ill. 5% of vaccinated would fall ill in that scenario. If 80% of them are vaccinated then 4 times the number of vaccinated vs unvaccinated will fall ill, ie 20% of the infected group who fall ill will be vaccinated.
So our numbers, while they seem scary, are a mathematical inevitability and show the vaccines work about 95% of the time, and that break through infections occur at the rate one would expect.
The real numbers are how many fully vaccinated people with no underlying health conditions end up in the ICU. That number is very, very small.
I'm still, however, waiting for the 5G chip in my vaccine to kick in. Maybe I need to upgrade the drivers, or maybe it's that 5G in Canada is still a dodgy proposition in many places.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm still, however, waiting for the 5G chip in my vaccine to kick in. Maybe I need to upgrade the drivers, or maybe it's that 5G in Canada is still a dodgy proposition in many places.
Did you already put your foil hat on? Maybe that's helping... 
The rest of your post... 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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I know people (some are even family of mine) working in hospitals in two different lands, and for their empiric observations, in the hospitals they work for, the ratio of intensive station patients is clearly (like 80% or more) being unvaccinated people and not that old as before, since some weeks / couple of months ago, the average age is getting younger and younger. Back to real cases: some people that went to school with me had to stay in the hospital for several days and one even died, and I am not that old.
I can't say in the rest of the world, but if in 5 hospitals in 4 different cities in two different countries is like that... adding some deviation, even rounding down a bit... it still is a remarkable difference.
I don't usually care, what the main stream says. And I know that many, many media groups follow their own agenda. But I do trust those people and I believe the numbers they see everyday.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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There's more to Covid than death. I know one family who are all suffering from long Covid; they've had it for over a year now. Another friend has been in hospital for the last 10 weeks with it. She's been in and out of intensive care with it.
Let's look at that statistic though. Assuming worst case of 97% recovery, the population of the USA is 328 million approx, so that's about 9.8 million deaths. That's a hell of a lot of people. 1% mortality is 3.2 million.
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as of today, we have only seen 688K deaths out of 42.9M cases, here in the United States.
There have been 4.55M deaths world wide, as of right now, out of 219M reported cases, out of a estimated world population of 7.9 billion.
I support vaccination. I support the science. I do not support fear mongering and I don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear because of COVID.
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May differ from country to country, but haven't seen any fear mongering. What purpose would that serve?
Drop the nonsense.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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What on earth does that mean; you don't support people who choose to live and cower in fear? If someone chooses to have the vaccine, they aren't cowering in fear. If someone is shielding, they aren't cowering in fear. If someone chooses to think of others and wear a mask, this isn't cowering in fear. Quite frankly, it's no one else's business how someone else chooses to live.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: it's no one else's business how someone else chooses to live.
Except when their choices affect others.
Otherwise, you'll get people arguing that it's "no one else's business" if they chose not to get vaccinated, and chose not to wear a mask or maintain social distancing. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Those figures may be correct but you're missing one important point, those are the numbers WITH precautions (social distancing, isolation, face masks, vaccine) in place, you're quoting them as if that's all that would have happened if we'd done nothing. The whole point of the vaccine and other measures is to reduce the transmission rate in the overall population NOT to protect the individual.
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Long COVID is a b****. It makes young, fit and active people unable to climb a single floor of stairs - for all intents and purpose, crippled.
I no longer care: I am vaccinated, therefore a lot safer from long COVID, and at the moment not being vaccinated is pretty much a choice instead of "a situation". If other people want to gamble, who am I to stop them? The only sad point for me is that I am not in a position to profit from them.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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If you're seeing a marked uptick in young people getting their first shot, my guess is that it has a lot more to do with succumbing to imminent job loss rather than d00m p0rn.
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That, and the fact that governments have now decided to make life miserable for those who are not yet vaccinated.
Vaccine passports are now required in some places to enter businesses deemed to be "non-essential". Strangely enough, over here where I am, when no vaccine was available, we used to use a color system (based on trends in infection rates); regions in red were in complete lockdown, yellow had some restrictions lifted, and those in green were pretty much a free-for-all (minus masks and keeping distances). Now that 80%+ of the local population has been vaccinated (and everything would be categorized as green), that system's out the window, to be replaced by stricter rules. That makes no sense to me.
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In many places, it's about obeying or losing your rights. Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are actually eliminating restrictions. Sweden--the former media poster boy for irresponsibility--is currently barring visitors from Israel, which is experiencing a big outbreak despite being one of the most heavily vaccinated countries. Singapore, maybe even more vaccinated, also has a big outbreak. Natural immunity gained from recovering from it is far more effective protection than the vaccines, yet the inconvenient science is ignored there. Many venues that now bar the unvaccinated are still using masks and social distancing. It's pointless to go on because it's like debating religion, and this is The Lounge.
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For years I've been using Thunderbird's RSS reader. I know it's primary known as an email client, but its RSS reader is pretty decent.
But for the past few months, I swear it takes longer and longer to start deleting stuff. I've had feeds that have had thousands of entries in them, but I delete stuff as I catch up with new posts, and frequently empty its trash folder, so there's very little data it should need to work with (a few dozen posts per feed, at the very most).
If I leave it alone for a few minutes then go back to it, and hit the Delete button, it can often take a solid 10+ seconds before I get any response from it. Then after it's finally deleted the entry, I can keep deleting stuff repeatedly and it'll be nearly instantaneous, as one would expect.
Leave it alone again for a few minutes, and them go back to it to delete one entry...and again, it'll take a long time to process that first request. It's like a system that very aggressively pages everything to disk, but there's no disk activity while it's in that state - just a spinner with the app going into this "not responding" state.
The process is using far less memory than what's available (in typical use, this system can keep running with very little paging). I can't even begin to imagine WTE it might be doing.
Anyone using Thunderbird is seeing something similar? I've gone over all options I could find, but there's practically nothing about memory usage and/or caching.
(This is more of a rant than me hoping for an actual solution)
Also...I'm not exactly married to Thunderbird. I know there's tons of alternative RSS readers out there, but I'd be curious to hear some recommendations based on first-hand experience. The simpler, the better - like I said, I don't even use its email functionality.
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Thunderbird is horrendously slow with email as well. I have no idea what it’s doing, but it’s slow.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I used Thunderbird for quite a few years for my three email accounts. However I switched to Googlemail a few months back and find it is just as good, if not better.
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Thunderbirds are go…
Queue music
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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Dun de dun, dun dun... 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I'm in! I'm totally in. In like... well, I'm in!
It's been many years since the last AAA "western" MMO has been released.
Looking forward. Totally in the hype.
Preps for launch are running!
My launch-prep plan (worth a look^^): Infographic: Game Release Prep : newworldgame[^]
Anyone else waiting for release?
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Mike Barthold wrote: It's been many years since the last AAA "western" MMO has been released.
Only three years, surely?[^]
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I don't see RDR as a classical MMO - it has an online mode, yes, but that's true for almost all games these days.
And, according to the counting-strategy of many people: one-two-many, "three" equals "many" 
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lies!
the color of the universe is mostly black.... just look up at night....
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what do you think of that?
is it worth it updating my custom utility libraries to support that?! quite a bit of code to review...  :/
EDIT trying now to add nullable reference to my utility library...
but I got some.. existential crisis.. not sure how my custom IList<T> should implement IList
more code there...
modified 25-Sep-21 7:50am.
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