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GeneralchatGPT3.5 V Copilot: real-life example Pin
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I also fear that their tendency to be confidently wrong (with citations!) can lead people using it to learn to make terrible mistakes

I agree, wholeheartedly. I use these tools as a last-ditch-effort. When I can, I like to find answers to problems online from real humans. However, if you look at this BLE (bluetooth low energy) that I'm trying to do, the explanations are often non-existent. People use wifi connection way more than BLE but I like bluetooth because it means your data is local. I just want to transfer data between my phone and a local device.

Anyways, these tools should really only be used when the person already understands 95% of the code and needs help with the extras.

honey the codewitch wrote:
All this talk about LLMs replacing whole swaths of developers? So far I'm just not seeing it.


I have felt the same way, but I did have one really great experience with Copilot recently where it explained something extremely fluently and then also directed me to the source code for the BLE portion that I could not find via Internet search.

Internet Search Issues
Here's the one thing that I'm starting to see where AI is more advanced.
As we all know, Internet Search is "biased". It finds the things that are "most found" and gives you those.
When you have a really esoteric issue you will probably find that you cannot find an answer.
That's because those answers are buried by search engines because they are not "popular".

My Point
AI can find things that you cannot find. and that part is really weird.
AI seems to do a better job of "contextualizing" the thing you are searching for, while the Search Engines mostly just go for straight "popularity". These are the places where AI may win.

EDIT - Maybe A Better Analogy
I think an analogy to what the "Talking Heads" are saying about "AI Take-over" should be more compared to Power Tools.

It's as if the invention of a table saw would suddenly make everyone a "Master Wood Crafter".
It just ain't so. And the same is true of software development.
You still got to understand how things fit together.

modified 16-May-24 10:02am.

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