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In my team sure there are a couple of stereotypical developers,
but most are active and/or social people who do sports, are members of clubs, like to have drinks with mates,
and have other interests too that don't involve staring at computer screens, banging on keyboards and chuckling at Dilbert cartoons.
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There are people that do development work and developers. Unfortunately, both of them consider themselves developers. Interestingly, only the "people that do development work" get vehemently angry when you suggest they aren't developers. The developers just shrug, they weren't listening anyway because they were coding in their head while you were wasting oxygen.
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#include <iostream>
int main ( void )
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std::cout << "You are right! (LoL!)" << std::endl;
} Bye By(t)e
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IMO, you have to be social as a developer.
How on earth are you going to get the requirements out of the client unless you can 'bond' with them and get them to talk?
(And no, by 'bond' I don't mean using a welding torch, super glue, or drinking a shaken not stirred Vodka Martini with them)
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote: How on earth are you going to get the requirements out of the client unless you can 'bond' with them and get them to talk?
The only time I talked to clients is when I had my own company, and even then I never "bonded" with them (whatever that means ). In all other circumstances requirements were delivered by some kind of a manager.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: In all other circumstances requirements were delivered by some kind of a manager.
Ohh.
I guess my line of work is different then. I frequently have to liaise with representatives from the client, to understand what they want, then speak to the people who will use it the software and then see what they think.
I always find that if you can get on their side, make them see that all you want to do is a good job, then you have 'bonded' with them. They then won't go bitching about you behind your back.
I used to be self employed as well, still am, but now via a large company, so don't always get to meet the clients, which sucks a bit!
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote: How on earth are you going to get the requirements out of the client unless you can 'bond' with them and get them to talk?
This is probably not what is considered social interaction, it is what you need to do to get the job done.Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Because i(like some people) did many roles herebefore & also doing now like Documentation, UI designing, Coding, DB designing, Implementation, Customer support(Direct/Remote), etc., so i have involved/worked with many people like my team members, other team, senior programmers, customers, hardware engineers, etc., But i think it happens to small/medium size company people.
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thatraja wrote: Documentation, UI designing, Coding, DB designing, Implementation, Customer support(Direct/Remote)
How on earth would any of these count as a "social" activity?!
thatraja wrote: so i have involved/worked with many people like my team members, other team, senior programmers, customers, hardware engineers, etc.,
I too interact with them, but because I *have to*. These don't count as social activities either. This is just me and you doing our jobs.
I think that geeks are social, but only with other geeks!
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Well, don't you remind me of the school days!
The longest vacation I had was 4 days and that was months ago. I'll need to wait for a few more months to go on a holiday.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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oh.... same here...
my cousin call me alien.... as I am not attending more social function... so in any function they find me, then their first expression is.... Regards
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Sociophobes.
My online-dictionary shows the following proposals for "sociaphobes":
sousaphones, sociables, sousaphone's, homophobes, socialises, socialites, socializes, xenophobes, siphons, socialise, semaphores, siphon's, socialite's, socialize, xenophobe's, Sophie's, semaphore's, seashores, technophobes, seashore's"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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That's what I thought it was too, but the dictionary I was using decided that no, there was an "a". I reckon an "o" too, so it's back. cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: but the dictionary I was using
Chris its time to update your dictionary.
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YES...I think developers are less social...THAN others..... Rating always..... WELCOME
Be a good listener...Because Opprtunity knoughts softly...N-Joy
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Absolutely agreeRegards
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I agree, but more in the sense of : Developers are less social than others because they are more selective with whom they want to socialise. Almost like the way we select in which environments we want to develop.
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I too agree with the point.
Alex JMW wrote: the way we select in which environments we want to develop
Also, the programming language we want to use
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Depends on how much booze has been consumed.
After a few shooters, I've even been known to code in [censored].
I think for the most part, the mental profile of the job gives the impression that we keep to ourselves a lot, pacing, staring into space etc, but we can be as sociable as the next person. Even more so in the right environment. IMHO, anyway.
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I agree. When we are in the middle of problem solving or some other aspect of our work that has our brain working, we are not really up for a discussion of what we plan on having for lunch. When we are outside of that mental absorbtion, we are mor communicative. For example, look at the amount of communication that goes on here at CodeProject.
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finally the defination of SOCIAL is depend on us.... Rating always..... WELCOME
Be a good listener...Because Opprtunity knoughts softly...N-Joy
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No, I think it's just that fewer non-developers want to hang out with us.
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