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PhilLenoir wrote: .. but then I never started!
 Me too.
Marc
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As the late great Ogden Nash wrote:
My fellow man I do not care for,
I often wonder what he's there for,
The only reason I can find,
is reproduction of his kind.
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Marc Clifton wrote: I have little hope (actually no hope) for human-kind.
I agree we have devolved into something I don't really recognize anymore. We used to care about each other and take responsibility for out actions I wonder at what point that stopped?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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Mike Hankey wrote: I wonder at what point that stopped?
In part, when we were somehow lulled into thinking that our government would take care of us instead.
Marc
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Yeah I guess that's been a large part of it. When we were young people were ashamed to take welfare and preferred to stand on their own 2 feet. But in those days large corporations still had jobs in this country, the country where the workers got them to the point were they are.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Then again, at what point do we become intelligent enough to stop paying hundreds of dollars to attend concerts where the performers spew lip-synch meaningless profane drivel?
FIFY
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Marc Clifton wrote: At what point do we start holding the performer responsible for spewing meaningless profane drivel?
The upside of free speech is that one gets to say what one wants.
The downside of course is that the other guys gets to do the same.
Marc Clifton wrote: Then again, at what point do we become intelligent enough to stop paying hundreds of dollars to attend concerts where the performers spew meaningless profane drivel?
Presumably it will be well after the point where we stop spending hundreds or even thousands to watch adults run up and down a field moving balls around under various arcane rules.
And that of course can't happen until we stop physically assaulting others and rioting after watching such displays.
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MehGerbil wrote: At what point do we stop holding the performer responsible and start holding the guy who booked the act as responsible
At the same point we hold parents responsible for crimes their children commit.
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Slacker007 wrote: At the same point we hold parents responsible for crimes their children commit.
I guess it takes a village up until the point it comes time to assign blame.
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I don't buy into the village bit, never have. Blame always lies with the parents.
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Slacker007 wrote: I don't buy into the village bit, never have. Blame always lies with the parents.
I don't hold you accountable for such a silly view.
I blame your parents. 
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I don't think it is silly. It actually works. I take full responsibilty for my parenting and my parenting mistakes with my children. I don't put the responsibility on some bullshit village.
The parenting that Eminem received in his life was sub standard.
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Slacker007 wrote:
At the same point we hold parents responsible for crimes their children commit.
At least in the US that is often the case certainly at the social level and often at the legal level.
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jschell wrote: At least in the US that is often the case certainly at the social level and often at the legal level.
I might not have understood your comment but I beg to see a case where the parents went to jail because underage Johnny robbed a liquor store.
I could be wrong.
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I was asked to give a talk at a Womens' Institute meeting once.
Accent on the "once".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Were you able to get any phone numbers? 
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I didn't pull 
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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He said he was asked to give a speech. He never said that he was allowed to talk for more than a few seconds before being thrown out. 
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Who cares, what if veterans like Eminem as much as they like other type of music ?
I'm certain more and more veterans will want to watch rap and heavy metal, electronic and all kind of non-mainstream music.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I shot some people in Iraq but for the love of decency don't let me hear the F-bomb.
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American puritanism...
You can watch Rambo movies (especially the last one) where Rambo is killing countless people in full gory detail; but there are beeps when characters use profanity.
Also when there is a semblance of nudity all hell break loose and a congressional hearing is called...
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: Also when there is a semblance of nudity all hell break loose and a congressional hearing is called...
To be fair, those congressional hearings are usually called when people use the occasion of a family event (such as the Super Bowl) to showcase their sub-par moral standards.
I've not seen Congressional hearings over a porno DVD showing nudity.
The outrage people feel during an obviously planned wardrobe malfunction is of the sort that some of these celebrities would express if they were to attend a Lady Gaga concert only to get a pudgy, middle aged preacher talking about Hell.
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I am getting old - I had to look up what an F-bomb is.
I thought it might have something to do with farting 
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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