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Ah so that explains Windows 8... 
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No, they don't, and it is entirely uncertain who they actually DO listen to.
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For a minute I was showing my age; I thought you were referring to this QC[^].
I used that package for years as my editor-of-choice.
Software Zen: delete this;
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That's where I learned C ! It's where my FORTRAN programming, using C syntax, finally changed to C programming. It was great.
Remember when the function arg declarations were done outside the parenthesis ! ?
Showing your age? Bah! In the age of the human-cellphone interface, it is a badge of pride!
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My first significant project in C was written using BDS C[^], which created code for the Z80 microprocessor. Ironically, my development machine was an early MS-DOS 3.3 machine, and I ran the BDS compiler using a Z80 emulator.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Maybe your are ancient.
This was on my first PC, an IBM-AT 12Mhz 1-wait state. Math co-processor! It had an RLL HDD! 360KB FDD and 1.2 MB HDD (5 1/4, of course). Forty MB that never got filled. Fast desktop on the site (at the time). PC-DOS 3.1 . I think that thing was bought for somewhere around $10K.
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My first PC was a Gateway machine: 16MHz 386SX processor, 40MB hard drive, 256K RAM. The initial machine was around $2200. I spent another $2000 upgrading it over the years: 1MB of RAM, 387SX math coprocessor, 340MB hard drive, several video adapters and monitors, sound cards, and optical drives. Its long life came to an end when the 2nd motherboard I'd put in it failed and you couldn't buy motherboards in that form factor any longer. At that point the case was the only part of the machine that was original. It was still serving a useful purpose at that point - it was a print server for my home network (this was before most printers supported wifi).
Software Zen: delete this;
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Can anyone recommend a pair for a very noisy office?
My priorities (in order) are:
1) Noise cancelling needs to be seriously good
2) Noise leakage needs to be minimal/non-existent
3) Comfortable for long periods
4) As a bonus, it would be nice if they played music well but the real purpose is to shut out pneumatic drills, people who don't quite get the point of telephones and idiots who think that VCs should be conducted at 150 decibels.
Bose QC35s and Sony WH1000s seem to be the top general picks around the net (it would be nice not to be spending £300 on an office accessory, though!) but it would be good to hear the thoughts of anyone who has a pair specifically for coding in bad office environments.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Easy for me, I just mute my hearing aids. 
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Haha - my son used to do that when he was a kid and was being told off.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Awesome, you have built-in noise cancellation.
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PeejayAdams wrote: Noise cancelling needs to be seriously good
PeejayAdams wrote: it would be nice not to be spending £300 on an office accessory, though!
These are conflicting requirements.
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I suspect you're right,
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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I'm imagining a floor with 40 people with noise-cancelling phones, and how they react to a fire-alarm 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: and how they react to a fire-alarm
I've worked at Siemens in Germany and believe you me, their fire alarm will wake up the dead.
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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Actually, I can tell you just how they react. They lean in toward their monitor, they hunch their shoulders. Then I stand up and shout, "That's a FIRE ALARM!" They look around confusled for a minute, and then go to the door to get out. They are really surprised when there is smoke in the hallway.
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Why are people conducting VCs using pneumatic drills ?
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Sony WH-1000XM2 Great sounding headphone with class leading NC.
Look around you can get it for < £300
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Yes, these are starting to look like the ones. Thanks.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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They are good, especially if your source supports LDAC.
If you wanted to look at IEM's too which are noise canceling by design then the new iBasso IT01 is very good at around 90 quid.
I use the Sony and the iBasso in the office every day.
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I'm more inclined to highly visible 'phones rather than IEMs, simply because they send a visual message of "leave me alone, I'm coding."
My source currently would be my mobile (Chinese junk but surprisingly decent sound through the headphone socket) and I suspect that I'd use it wired rather than Bluetooth it.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Good luck with that. I also have the Beyerdynamic T5p Gen 2 even those don't appear to discourage people here from interrupting me.
A simple hand gesture usually works though. 
I'm not sure if the Sony includes a cable I don't think it did, so budget a few extra £'s for a 3.5mm to 3.5mm 1.5 meter long cable too, or you can use them in DAC mode via a USB cable I believe, but I can't comment on that because I've never used them that way.
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It does come with a 1.5 meter cable - not often something comes with a cable that's a sensible length!
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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PeejayAdams wrote: Can anyone recommend ANC Headphones
Pretty sure Nelson Mandella had a pair.
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You forgot one very important one if 2) is implemented.
5) A chair with a seatbelt and a back strong enough to keep you from needing a chiropractor when your coworkers are forced to kick your seat to get your attention.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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