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GeneralRe: Soo where were we with this being social? PinmemberBergholt Stuttley Johnson11-Dec-12 0:24 
GeneralRe: Soo where were we with this being social? PinmemberMendor8111-Dec-12 0:33 
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GeneralRe: Soo where were we with this being social? Pinmemberihoecken11-Dec-12 6:10 
Mendor81 wrote:
socialism

I wonder about the interpretation of communism, socialism and social.
 
Social is a word that first appeared with the word "liberal". Liberal meant that every one should be able to find the way in the society he wanted to work for. The more hard you work - the more you got. Social was one aspect of being liberal. That meant the "strong" has to care for the "weak" (not go give him everything, but so that the weak was able to get stronger and work for his own). It's based on the principles of knighthood.
 
Socialism was an idea (never invented in reality) by Karl Marx. He said that every one should care for everybody else. Everyone should habe the same rights and everyone should have everything he needed to life. The basic idea was a good one I think, but it can never work (so the idea is a bad one I think).
 
Communism is the socialism in reality. The idea of "everone is same" will be changed to "everyone without power is same and everyone with power is more same". So some people do all the work and some people get all the profits. Communism is also oppressive.
 
So the question is, why do people think that a health care is socialism or communism? It's of course regulation and control by the government, but it's not communism. In communism no health care is needed, because no one has to pay the doctor.
 
Well, health care can even be capitalism. Why? Because the workers are healthier and so the productivity can grow. A good health care could lead to a higher gross national product, more taxes and could fund itself.
But that's the problem perhaps in US and even in Europe (where a health care exists in most coutries) - the most ideas are not good, because the are made by politicians and most politicians can't handle any money.
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